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["Lynda" <lurine AT softcom.net>]

Well, actually, if the Sr. Schwartzkopf hadn't conceived of and trained the 
Black Guard, we wouldn't have even half the trouble we have in the Middle 
East right now and that goes back well before BCB (Bush/Clinton/Bush).

Obviously some of us are making the Congress-boobs nervous since both the No 
Choice candidates are all for pumping UP NCLB!  Both talk about making it 
stronger, making it tougher, giving it more money.

Lynda
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Akka Homestead" <akkabhomestead AT yahoo.com>


I haven't seen a difference yet. Oh, and I don't think Democrats are tax and 
spend anymore,,,,I think they are borrow and spend as well, or maybe just 
spend...lol..they(R+D) are all just spend...spend now, live the good life 
now, pay for it later...I told my daughter once that generally this is the 
way Democrats are, but Bush has put himself square into the Democratic 
stereotype...go out and go shopping now, your kids and grandkids will pay 
later...
My own cynism goes back a few decades.
Kennedy choose one of those middle, Diplomatic routes that the Democrats are 
always offering as an alternative, he committed us to a course that the 
Republicans would follow....he stepped us right into a war that had been 
fought for decades. Johnson had to send even more troops, and Nixon even 
more after that. Fast forward...If Clinton had acted and made decisive steps 
against Al Qaida early on, we wouldn't be in Afghanistan today. For that 
matter, had GHWB allowed Schwartzkopf to march to Baghdad, we wouldn't have 
lot so many young lives in Iraq today. We still haven't paid ( in lives ) 
for all the technology Clinton sold to North Korea and China. Anyway,Bush 
stepped us right into a war that had been going on, whether you are talking 
about Afghanistan or Iraq.
So I really started looking at parties differently. Just like they no longer 
represent us, they no longer represent their parties' platform either. 
That's why there were Reagan Democrats. It is all in who you know and who 
you can buy. People have short memories, and there is no more balance. For 
example, remember the whole story about Clinton dodging the draft? Then you 
have the story of W's very weak NG service...which is better? Well, Kerry 
tried to make a go of being a war hero, but failed, and McCain is doing the 
same. Biden also dodged the draft(no real mention of this lately), and as we 
all know, Palin is female, but now has a son in Iraq. It's time we forget or 
make excuses or make one guy sound worse than the rest, but both parties do 
the same thing. Worse, now, we have such a nasty climate for military 
service now, with two+ unpopular wars going on, I am afraid for the guys 
coming back. Everyone says they support the
troops, but not the policy that sent them there, but do they really? Our 
troops are now volunteers, not draftees, so will they really feel the 
support, or will they be seen as Bush supporters or fanatical right wing 
conservatives (the Palin is being painted) over time. It worries me. People 
won't care that each kid had his own reason for joining because there is 
general belief that those who volunteer have no better choice. But I 
digress....
War aside, these politicians are all tied to PACs and special interests. 
They are crooked, smooth talking manipulators. They spend money like it 
grows on trees. The amount of money spent on political ads alone is 
staggering. The most successful politicians work the debt so that the 
payment comes due in a future administration. The country has been dumbed 
down by stupid programs like NCLB that sheeple no longer take a good hard 
look at candidates, but sadly, they vote on appearances...or things that 
don't matter like whether or not he's handsome(I heard those comments about 
Al Gore) or now, unfortunately, black. I hear blacks talking about voting 
for Obama simply because he is a 'brother'. Is this any better than whites 
not voting for Obama because he is 'a brother'. I've also heard comments, in 
my own family even, of how McCains arm movements make him seem less 
presidential or how Obama's suit makes him look more presidential. In all
these instances, a judgment is made on appearances and not on 
qualifications. People vote a party because their friends and family vote 
that party, not necessarily because the candidate believes a certain way on 
the issues. I mean let's get real. Are the people in Illinois(Blue state) 
really that different from the folks in Indiana(Red)...no...


To answer Roy's question of where is the third party...they have already 
been locked away in the basement. They can see through the window, but can't 
get out to do much about the mudslide happening around them. We need to get 
back to issues, and not personalities. If the issues of the third parties 
were publicized more, you would find more young people, and maybe old, too, 
aligning with those parties. On equal footing, equal advertising, and equal 
access to debates, you might see a different government evolving. Until that 
time, the only thing us third party folks can do is spread the word and not 
be ashamed to stand up and say "I'm for Paul" or "I'm for Nader" or I voted 
for Perot or I voted for McKinney, or Jackson or Larouche, etc. It makes 
people realize that they really do have a choice.


Lynn Wigglesworth wrote:
> There's plenty of blame to go around. Do you really see a difference
> between the two parties? Listening to any of them, I can't tell if they
> are a tax and spend Democrat or a borrow and spend Republican. So few
> have the guts to do what their constituents want.




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