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  • From: "Lynda" <lurine AT softcom.net>
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  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] Socialism - What is it? Who gets it? Why?
  • Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:45:45 -0800

O.K., here's a good example. Mid-wives. The government has decided they aren't good for "you." When the government telling folks that mid-wives weren't good for them didn't work, they insisted that you had to have a doctor "supervise" the mid-wives. When that didn't work, the government regulatory agency that oversees insurance, made it clear to the insurance carriers that they felt this practice was too high risk. Doctors started to refuse to work with mid-wives that did home births, so hospitals set up birthing rooms for the mid-wives to use. Then the insurance companies were "encouraged" to jack the rates on hospitals.

Socialism in this country has become synonomous with uniform and control. That is a uniform population *except* for the rich and control of the middle and lower classes. Social control under the banner of helping the middle class.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is not reading their history books, nor are they really looking at what is happening.

If you can find me ONE single speech where Teflon doesn't mention at least once "helping the middle class," I'd like to see it.

Lynda
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene GeRue" <genegerue AT ruralize.com>

Bob, thanks for your thoughts.

I have no interest in taking shots. I seek truth.

I largely feel as you do. But the word "socialism," it seems to me, is
today used more casually and less usefully than in the past. For
instance, here, you seem to feel that loss of freedom is tied to
socialism. How do you see that connection? I see it as Big Brother-- the government--intruding further into our lives, not the direct
result of social programs except as we willingly accept them. Yes, for
some we have no choice. Pay taxes or go to jail.

We cannot take or use what the government provides without giving up
some freedom. If we use any public facilities then we are subject to
the rules of those charged with maintaining those facilities. So, yes,
if you walk to the store, your freedom is restricted by traffic
signals. But that walk is your choice. To avoid that walk you must
leave the city. That is my choice.

Seems to me you could take that Missouri trip as you wish. As long as
you pay cash, there is no record of your movement except your
registration in the hotel. The hotel is a choice for you. If you
choose to stay in the hotel you must follow the rules of the hotel,
which will certainly include identification and registration. The
hotel management would be fools to not require that. Would you give a
room in your house to someone you did not know?

Tyranny of the many over the few is also sometimes suggested as a
definition of democracy. It doesn't work; all of us have equal power
at the ballot box. We mostly deserve what we get, except when lies are
so well done that we cannot see through them. I detest lies but they
are part of the modern scene. To me they are criminal and those who
speak or write them should be subject to censure. Whoops--that would
be a loss of their freedom, right? So we see that full freedom
includes recieving much we don't want.

I have been a non-conformist for all of my life. It has caused me
pain. I persist. The homestead life, here in the midst of hundreds of
wooded acres, is my best answer.



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