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["Daniel Van; Kelley" <daniel-kelley AT cox.net>]

This is utter crap, spin, arrogance.  A 25 year old man is found dead at
ground zero.      You determine he is a martyr protesting against Bushes
re-election and the war in Iraq.  You base this determination upon such
quotes as:  "apparently distraught;"  "Newsday, citing a police source it
did not identify;" "I'm absolutely sure it's a protest," Mary Anne Mauney,
Veal's supervisor at the lab, told The Daily News;"
"I don't know what made him commit suicide, but where he did it was
symbolic."

All speculative BS.

Did you stop to consider that this man was not in his right mind and needed
a real friend in his life.  I guess reasoning that his dying was for your
cause and proclaiming him a martyr is more useful than acknowledging the
sad, senseless and unnecessary waste of a human life.

Your bent scares the hell out of me.

Daniel Van; Kelley


-----Original Message-----
From: homestead-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:homestead-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of Toni Hawryluk
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:10 AM
To: Homestead mailing list
Subject: [Homestead] terrorists ? or protesters ?


Try a different way of "looking" :

When people kill other people - outside
"agreed-to" wars as opposed to inflicted wars,
such as the one in Iraq - it's been called
"murder", which is what happened at Ground
Zero.

And continues to happen as "terrorists"
continue to *murder* - this is *neither"
"suicide" nor "martyrdom" *in my 'book'*
when one takes some 'other-and-unwilling
person/s  life along with one when one
decides to be terminally *stupid* -
and murderous.

When people kill themselves for whatever
reason, it's "suicide" as long as they confine
the 'ending' to them selves.

When people commit suicide for a reason
other than personal - I see *that* as
martyrdom.

America - meet the first 'martyr', if only in
the media, of the 2004 stolen-again-with-
the-help-of-*stupid*-voters election :

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6428499/



Man commits suicide at ground zero

25-year-old reportedly distraught over President Bush's reelection

The Associated Press

Updated: 8:43 a.m. ET Nov. 7, 2004

NEW YORK - A 25-year-old from Georgia who was apparently distraught over
President Bush's re-election shot and killed himself at ground zero.

Andrew Veal's body was found Saturday morning inside the off-limits site,
said Steve Coleman, a spokesman for the Port Authority of New York and New
Jersey. A shotgun was found nearby, but no suicide note was found, Coleman
said.

Newsday, citing a police source it did not identify, reported Sunday that
Veal opposed the war in Iraq and was apparently distraught after the
election.

Friends said Veal worked in a computer lab at the University of Georgia and
was planning to marry.

"I'm absolutely sure it's a protest," Mary Anne Mauney, Veal's supervisor at
the lab, told The Daily News. "I don't know what made him commit suicide,
but where he did it was symbolic."

Police were investigating how Veal entered the former World Trade Center
site, which is protected by high fences and owned by the Port Authority.

© 2004 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be
published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.




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