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["Toni Hawryluk" <tonihawr AT msn.com>]

Tvo wrote :
> They aren't lovely to look at, but you can't beat them for price and 
> utility.  My Fruehauf cost $750 shipped from Norfolk area and set in place 
> on steel pipes.

http://www.escapeartist.com/OREQ4/Nomadic_Housing2000_4.html<http://www.escapeartist.com/OREQ4/Nomadic_Housing2000_4.html>
  (Shipping Container mobile home, storage---cheap, long-lived, easy to move 
and set up, take down.)

Just thinking about the mobile homes in Florida -
had some of them been 'built' from these, and
*anchored* correctly, seems like they could
withstand hurricanes .... having them partly
buried or earth bermed up the sides would also
cut the wind force and prevent them being
turned over, wouldn't it ??
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James commented :
> don't see a whit of difference between having Bush in the Whore House and 
> having Kerry in there. 

Then you must have some unique powers -
*knowing* what Kerry would or would not do ....
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>Then you must have some unique powers -
>*knowing* what Kerry would or would not do ....

First, if there are things that Kerry would or would not do that he hasn't
already fully disclosed, that's all the more reason not to vote for him.
Best we can do is take him at his word.  Thus taken, it would make no
difference whatever if he were in office.

But you've missed the point.  It doesn't matter what Kerry would or would
not have done.  Kerry can't cause there to be more oil in the ground nor the
consumption of it by other countries.  Kerry can't affect mono-cropping,
can't put back the eroded topsoil, can't vouchsafe for trillions that people
expect to see in pensions and stocks and savings that cannot possible be
paid to them (or have any value if they are).   I could go on and on, but
most of the things that will dicatate the type of life we live in the next
few decades are beyond the influence of presidents.  People now of days are
typically fat to the point of immobility and strung out on a basket full of
prescription drugs.  How is who's president going to change any of that?

Neither candidate even addressed the fascism of the endless regulations
designed to allow only a few big companies to operate legally (try selling
some milk from your farm), or any of the things that government COULD do to
get off people's backs and improve their lives.

Toni, your comment only too much reflects the almost mindless Bush hating
that Bush is bad and,. well, you just don't know what secret things Kerry
would have done but it had to be way better than evil, evil Bush.  In
reality Bush and Kerry are like the mother who is trying to get her child to
go to piano lessons against his will and stoops to the ploy of "Would like
to wear the green coat or the blue coat?"  hoping that while occupied with
the false choice, he won't see that he is being coerced agaisnt his will.
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