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["Toni Hawryluk" <tonihawr AT msn.com>]

Gene typed :

> Too many of us are armchair experts 

Guilty as charged - - - except that I submit
the following partial quote : "... the old
clutch at little comforts." (and I've lost 
the author's name)

> seduced by the evening news. Maybe it's the childhood Lutheran in me; 

I thought it was just the Catholics ?
although neither proselytizing "took"
with me ...

> we need more pain.

(now LOL) Speak for yourself, Gene,
I have more than enough on my plate 
nor did I *earn* this much !

Toni
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> tvoivozhd---I wouldn't want my kids or grandkids fighting over the 
triangle---the world has changed, I want every kid to have access to a 
computer and I don't want their teachers to earn less than they could if 
they got a job as a garbage collector.

I'm only speaking to what I didn't agree with
in the rest of Tvo's post (OK, Gene ??) because
it's not "fair" to equate teachers "jobs" and 
garbage collectors' "jobs".

Teachers couldn't handle the physical
part of garbage collecting, but there are
garbage collectors who *could* teach ... <g>
but even that's not what *this* is about -
what it's about is :

Have you been in a big city, on a steamy
hot day in a series of hot days, during a
garbage collection strike ?

If you have, I don't have to say more, if
you haven't - think about the rats, the 
dogs and cats, the birds getting into the
stacks and breaking open bags of rotting
garbage and strewing it over the pavements
and sidewalks - - - then think about the 
spread of disease when garbage piles up 
in that heat. And keeps right on being piled
because *some* city people won't (can't ?) 
stop making garbage and restaurants don't
have much of a choice ...

Nope. This is one time when a job pays
what it's worth, to my thinking at least .... 
and if it's over what a teacher gets, then 
the teachers should stay out on strike 
until *parents* help teachers get what
they are worth. And like anything else,
there are teachers and then there are
teachers, but a 'bad' garbage collector
is out of work very quickly ....

Toni
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As everyone on this list knows, manufacturing is my schtick, mostly in
metal and plastic products.  Don't much care for wood products except
craft show and flea market products like twig Lincoln Log kits and log
furniture with your home foundry-cast K-D connectors so you can ship in
a compact shipping carton, and avoid labor cost by customer-assembly.

But all businesses have a lot in common, as illustrated by the following:




http://www.cbsc.org/english/howtos/busplanning.cfm  (writing a business
plan for a grant, for investors, and most of all for you so you've got a
blueprint and timetable to follow.)

http://www.grants-loans.org/  (nothing wrong with a business in Canada
either---should write Sasha on this---Canada is more friendly to
desperately needed small business, some provincial governments will flip
over backwards to help you (and them), good idea to enlist help from a
newspaper editor or columnist, who in turn will influence governmental
departments, officers and possibly trade groups.)

http://www.gov.mb.ca/itm/sbcd/  (Manitoba is a Canadian Province rabid
to sponsor startup industries)

http://www.smallbusinessbc.ca/guides/  (British Columbia is a nice place
to live, land is cheap, lots of business help on this website)

http://www.nccommerce.com/servicenter/Manufacturing/  (be a "Half Back",
a northerner running away from Florida to North Carolina)

http://www.sba.gov/starting/faqs/busquest.html  (31 business questions
for which you must have answers)

http://www.myownbusiness.org/s7/  (accounting, cash-flow are your
lifelines in starting, running a small business---a big company can
record them quarterly, a small startup almost has to construct a daily
balance sheet because you have little or no capital reserve to absorb
shocks)

http://www.sba.gov/advo/research/  (Small Business Administration
information and help)

http://www.missouribusiness.net/library/startup.asp  (Missouri startup
business information and help---just make it a safe distance from Zanoni
(upwind) so toxic beer doesn't do you in)

http://www.nolo.com/lawcenter/ency/article.cfm/ObjectID/DE57277A-F182-4A79-893AADE7AC4E2F98/catID/7685C43B-099D-45F4-8FAF5F7F41FAC3D1
(Fed, State startup requirements, permits, tax I.D.'s---don't forget how
to legally get rid of your toxic waste.)

http://www.business.gov/business_development.html  (managing your
hazardous waste---and definitely plan to use "Score" and SBDC services,
maybe a business incubator which provided joint accounting, guard,
janitorial and other services in the building complex)

http://www.thinkkentucky.com/kyedc/bguide14.asp  (Kentucky business
incubators---Kentucky has a reasonable climate, low cost land, and for
raw material, finish product transport is central to the East Coast and
Midwest population.)

http://www.thinkkentucky.com/kyedc/bguide14.asp  (more on Kentucky)

http://64.233.161.104/search?qÊche:_1kafuyfsc8J:www.agr.state.tx.us/eco/rural_eco_devo/economic_development/docs/2000plan.pdf+startup+small+manufacturing+business&hl=en
(Except for Alpine, Austin area Hill Country,around New Braunfels, Texas
is a terrible place to live---but money flows like wine from individual
investors and government.  Stay the hell out of sauna-bath Houston with
its cancer-inducing polluted air and water.)


Final note on this post----there is blizzard of new patents which you
should research to see what you could profitably manufacture.  Damn few
inventors make a dime on their patent, for those who have become
resigned to this fact, it is fairly easy to draw up a licensing contract
that offers the inventor some hope.  It can be exclusive with a
performance clause, or non-exclusive, take your choice.

http://www.sbomag.com/articals/pitfalls.html  (avoiding 101 startup
pitfalls  get your product liability, fire, auto insurance---don't bet
the farm on the fallacy "it can't happen to me")

http://64.233.161.104/search?qÊche:aKMDyvbmRfQJ:www.techtransfer.anl.gov/docs/resource-directory04.pdf+startup+small+manufacturing+business&hl=en
(Midwest startup resources---number of states to choose from, and lots
of low-cost manufacturing sites.)
http://www.techtransfer.anl.gov/docs/resource-directory04.pdf

http://www.nhsbdc.org/ (New Hampshire---low tax, mostly local control.
Find a friendly town with an empty, properly wired deserted factory
building with water and sewer, The small town will most likely give you
reduced or free rent with purchase option--cultivate neighbors and town
officials first, then move in and crank up your production line and
marketing program.)