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- From: "John Oliff" <JOLIFF AT pbu.edu>
- To: Kata Markon <gmark AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [GMark] Language and Style of Mark
- Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 06:53:26 -0400
Peter: Here is the quote most often used by Auerbach (cf. Hans Frei "Eclipse of Biblical
Narrative" also); as for the text books on Mark, I will get a list together on Monday or so.
John
The Bible’s claim to truth is not only far more
urgent than Homer’s, it is tyrannical - it excludes all
other claims. The world of the Scripture stories is
not satisfied with claiming to be historically true
reality - it insists that it is the only real world, is
destined for autocracy... The Scripture stories do
not, like Homer’s, court and favor, they do not
flatter us so that they may please and enchant us -
they seek to subject us and if we refuse we are
rebels.
E.
Auerbach, Mimesis, (1953:
14-15)
On 9 Sep 2005 at 9:49, Peter Head wrote:
> Thanks for this John,
>
> Tell me more about Auerbach (sp?) and Mark. I would normally be thinking
> both/and rather than not/but on Mark's story as window/reality itself. But
> I tend to be hermeneutically eclectic (read: indisciplined and not
> well-read?) on the subject.
>
> Cheers
>
> Peter
>
> At 02:06 AM 9/9/05, you wrote:
> >Pete
> >
> >Concerning RS I am thinking of the importance of reading Mark "as Story,"
> >not as a window to reality but reality itself (Auerbauch) with all the
> >components; concerning chapter 4 and miracles and parables, yes I might
> >cover them together; I think chapter 4 forces the reader to revisit the
> >first three chapters (especialy seeing that Jesus is the gospel [1:1] and
> >is the one sowing the seed with different responses chapters 1-3), so you
> >might cover them together.
> >
> >I will consider the book list and email you Monday.
> >
> >Grace and peace
> >John
> >
> >
> >
> >Peter Head said:
> > > Thanks John,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> My name is John and I teach gospels, if I had 10-12 lectures I would
> > >> cover
> > >> the
> > >> following:
> > >>
> > >
> > > Firstly, I should say that the lecture part of the particular course I am
> > > doing is complemented by a long series of reading classes which are
> > > meant to be more on Greek and exegesis. In the past, after the 10-12
> > > lectures there have also been 4-6 additional exegetical sessions based
> > > around student presentations. So the lectures are meant to be less
> > > exegetical and more introductory and thematic. It would be worth a
> > > complete re-think, but not for this year.
> > >
> > >> 1. Reading strategies in gospel narratives.
> > >>
> > >
> > > I'm not too sure what you are meaning here.
> > >
> > >
> > >> 2. Mark 1:1-3 and the narrator's reading of Israel's Scripture. My work
> > >> here has led me to believe that this opening paragraph is the
> > >> "hermeneutical key" to
> > >> Mark's gospel - you
> > >> may want to consider it in conjunction with chapters 4 and 12 (see
> > >> Tolbert, "Sowing the
> > >> Gospel")
> > >> 3. John the Baptist as foreshadowing Jesus Messiah both his message and
> > >> his fate. 4. The temptation narrative and its function in Mark's story (I
> > >> have found that the entire gospel of Mark can be taught through the lens
> > >> of 1:1-15).
> > >
> > > I had been tossing up about smuggling a treatment of 1.1-15 into the
> > > Genre
> > > lecture. But probably that would be trying to do too much. Perhaps I could
> > > tackle these three in a lecture on Mark's Introduction (1.1-15) and use
> > > that as a bridge between some of the more 'Introduction' type of lectures
> > > and the other more thematic and theological content ones. I'm going to
> > > add that one to my list.
> > >
> > >
> > >> 5. Demons and the stronger One (reading Mark 1, 3 and 5 in concert) -
> > >> it may be that Mark is retelling the Joshua story - wild beast = demons
> > >> (see LXX Isaiah
> > >> 12-13; 34-35)
> > >> 6. The Second Exodus motif (you might consider reviewing Rikki Watts
> > >> here and Mauser "Christ in the Wilderness").
> > >> 7. Wilderness themes - the feeding narratives (D. Juel's commentary is
> > >> good on this subject as well as M. Hooker's) 8. The echoes of Isaiah 6 and
> > >> 34-35 in the gospel of Mark - The two stage
> > >> healing of the blind in chapter 8 and Bartimaeus in chapter 10 as
> > >> paradigmatic for true "seeing" and "hearing" in the
gospel.
> > >
> > > These are good ideas.
> > > Perhaps within the framework I'm working with it might be possible to
> > > cover these issues in a lecture on the Miracles and Parables in Mark (does
> > > this need two lectures or, following Hooker, would it be better to treat
> > > them together to show their connectedness to Mark)? Hmm?
> > >
> > >
> > > So far I think I've suggested eleven topics: (re-arranged into a better
> > > order) 1. Intro: Outline of Mark and Overview of Reception
> > > 2. The Greek of Mark
> > > 3. The Text of Mark
> > > 4. The Setting/Occasion of Mark
> > > 5. The Genre of Mark
> > > 6. The Introduction to Mark.
> > > 7. The Narrative of Mark
> > > 8. The God of Mark
> > > 9. The Christology of Mark
> > > 10. The Parables and Miracles of Mark
> > > 11. The Disciples in Mark
> > >
> > >
> > > Lots to think about and (at least) one more spot up for grabs. Any more
> > > ideas? Perhaps I should have just asked the previous lecturer what he
> > > did!!!
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > >
> > > Pete
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Peter M. Head, PhD
> > > Sir Kirby Laing Senior Lecturer in New Testament
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Re: [GMark] Language and Style of Mark
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Re: [GMark] Language and Style of Mark,
Jeffrey B. Gibson, 09/08/2005
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Re: [GMark] Language and Style of Mark,
Michael Turton, 09/08/2005
- Re: [GMark] GMark books, Mike Higton, 09/08/2005
- [GMark] History of Reception/Interpretation of Mark, Peter Head, 09/08/2005
- Re: [GMark] Language and Style of Mark, Peter Head, 09/08/2005
- Re: [GMark] Language and Style of Mark, Peter Head, 09/08/2005
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Re: [GMark] Language and Style of Mark,
Michael Turton, 09/08/2005
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Re: [GMark] Language and Style of Mark,
John Oliff, 09/08/2005
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Re: [GMark] Language and Style of Mark,
Peter Head, 09/08/2005
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Re: [GMark] Language and Style of Mark,
John Oliff, 09/08/2005
- Re: [GMark] Language and Style of Mark, Peter Head, 09/09/2005
- Re: [GMark] Language and Style of Mark, John Oliff, 09/09/2005
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Re: [GMark] Language and Style of Mark,
John Oliff, 09/08/2005
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Re: [GMark] Language and Style of Mark,
Peter Head, 09/08/2005
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Re: [GMark] Language and Style of Mark,
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