FreeTDS Development Group

[Sebastien FLAESCH <sf AT 4js.com>]

Note I did the same process with 0.64 (stable release) without problems.

I am using --with-odbc-nodm because I don't want to use a driver manager.

Adding "/include" to the path does not help with 0.65 dev version.

Seb

Sebastien FLAESCH wrote:
> Downloaded "current" version from this link:
>
> ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/ALPHA/freetds/current/freetds-current.tgz
>
> Then I ran:
>
> ./configure --prefix=/opt3/dbs/tds/0.65 --with-odbc-nodm=/opt3/dbs/uxo/3.0
>
> (using ODBC headers from unixODBC).
>
> But could not manage to compile the ODBC driver:
>
>
> if gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../include  -I../../include  -D_FREETDS_LIBRARY_SOURCE -DTDS_NO_DM -D_REENTRANT -D_THREAD_SAFE -DDEBUG=1 -Wall 
> -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wno-long-long -pthread -g -O2 -Wdeclaration-after-statement -MT bsqlodbc.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/bsqlodbc.Tpo" 
> -c -o bsqlodbc.o bsqlodbc.c; \
> then mv -f ".deps/bsqlodbc.Tpo" ".deps/bsqlodbc.Po"; else rm -f 
> ".deps/bsqlodbc.Tpo"; exit 1; fi
> bsqlodbc.c:49:17: sql.h: No such file or directory
>
>
>
>
> Seb
>
> Sebastien FLAESCH wrote:
> > Hi James and thank you for your comments/advices.
> >
> > I understand this is a open source project, no problem.
> >
> > I will try to get the latest dev version from the CVS repository.
> >
> > As a side note I would suggest that someone adds from time to time a news
> > on the web site, last news is from April 2005. By the way the text of the
> > new shows 0.63, but the link to the ANNOUNCE has 0.64 in the text.
> >
> > Best regards.
> > Seb
> >
> > James K. Lowden wrote:
> > > Sebastien FLAESCH wrote:
> > > > My name is Sebastien FLAESCH 
> > > Good morning, Sebastien.  Pleased to make your acquaintance.  Welcome to
> > > the project.  
> > >
> > > > Understand we do not just write a light driver to let 4gl programmers do
> > > > a few SELECT / INSERT / UPDATE / DELETE statements;
> > > FreeTDS is used extensively in many production environments, be assured.  
> > >
> > > > - Version is still alpha/beta (0.64) - when you compile FreeTDS you get
> > > > a debug version by default. - No scrollable cursors??? (this is very old
> > > > stuff - now?)
> > > >
> > > > PLEASE: What are the plans?
> > > There is no plan.  When and as we have time, we fix things and add things.
> > >  You're welcome to join us.  It's a volunteer project, and the best
> > > contributions come from people who want the software to do something it
> > > doesn't already do.  
> > >
> > > > - There is no official support for SQL Server 2005 / 2008 (only TDS 8.0)
> > > And guess what?  There's no official support, full stop.  Everything we
> > > know about TDS 7.0 and up is inferred by reverse engineering the TDS
> > > packets.  (The only support we get from Microsoft is anti-support.  We've
> > > talked to them.  They won't provide even documentation.  The next time you
> > > read about Microsoft's latest open source marketing blather initiative, do
> > > please bear that simple fact in mind.)  
> > >
> > > To be clear, we're pretty current.  TDS 8.0 *is* for 2005, and 2008 is
> > > still in beta, please.  Is there some protocol feature of SQL Server 2005
> > > that you noticed is missing?  
> > >
> > > > You guys probably know about SQL Server's Native Client that ships with
> > > > SQL Server 9 (2005). This one is supposed to replace the old ODBC driver
> > > > one day, from my understanding. Are they still using TDS with this
> > > > Native Client? => Is TDS going to die?
> > > Cf. http://blogs.msdn.com/dataaccess/archive/2005/04/26/412161.aspx
> > >
> > > Every few years, Microsoft plops a New and Improved API out there for
> > > everyone to ooh and ahh at.  That lets them and their groupies declare
> > > they've once again made the world safe for programming.  
> > >
> > > But TDS itself is a franchise.  It's 20 years old.  It works with probably
> > > millions of clients and servers. It's very efficient, possibly the best
> > > remote database protocol on the planet.  (Yes, it has warts.  Show me
> > > software without warts and I'll show you a textbook.)  How in the world --
> > > and why? -- would Microsoft damage its advantage?  It's one thing to say,
> > > "Use .NET and be cool", and something else to say that old clients can't
> > > connect to new servers or vice versa.  Especially because *TDS* isn't a
> > > feature most people even know about, and would be devilishly hard to
> > > improve on.  
> > >
> > > As Acey J. Bunch says above, 
> > >
> > >         "It is new in that this data access library did not exist prior to SQL
> > > Server 2005, but rest assured that it is not some radical new design for
> > > accessing data!"
> > >
> > > I think we can say TDS is safe for another day.  
> > >
> > > Regarding the issues you raised.  As you can tell from Frediano's response
> > > (and I hope from the email archives) we take bug reports seriously.  But
> > > please remember we'll work with you, not for you.  The more you do to
> > > correct/isolate a problem, the sooner it will be fixed.  Suggestions,
> > > ordered by decreasing helpfulness:
> > >
> > > 1.  Use the latest snapshot.  That's where any fixes/additions will be
> > > made. 
> > > 2.  Send a patch. 
> > > 3.  Add a unit test illustrating the problem.  
> > > 4.  Describe the problem in terms of the source code.  "Function X on
> > > lines Y-Z overwrites foo without adjusting the length in bar" can be a
> > > good place to start.  
> > > 5.  Include a TDSDUMP trace.  That shows us the packet sequence and
> > > calling sequence.  
> > >
> > > Sebastien, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship.  
> > >
> > > Regards, 
> > >
> > > --jkl
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