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- From: Matthew Estrada <matt_estrada AT yahoo.com>
- To: Corpus-Paul <corpus-paul AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [Corpus-Paul] Gal 2:19 & Rom 7
- Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 14:57:40 -0700 (PDT)
meta <meta AT rraz.net> wrote:
Response to Tim Gallant.
ME: I beg to differ from you: Torah always was and still is intended
to
be a means of achieving perfection, and this is obvious IMO from its
reading. Very simply, God had expectations of perfection from his
creation--all of it, even the cosmos. And it was presented (written)
as the
means of justification. And it had its own context. If you take off
your
rose-colored theological glasses I think IMHO you will understand this,
but
I am not meaning to be disrespectful. This is the problem: if you
conceive
the context of biblical truth to be completely holistic at all of its
times
and stages, then you will completely misread it.
Response:
First allow me to say that I am enjoying this dialogue immensely. Thank you to all parties.
Richard, I would encourage you to read my poorly written, but fascinating paper on John 1-4 (concentrating on the Cana Miracle). John's Gospel is largely dependent upon Pauline theology, in my opinion. He attempts, in his use of the character John the Baptist as a personification of "the Law and the Prophets", to demonstrate to 1) "the Jews" that their misinterpretation of the Law and the Prophets (=as a means to salvation) is incorrect; 2) his audience that a correct interpretation and application of the Law and the Prophets leads one to seeing Jesus as the promised Jewish messiah. I think you might find this interesting to see how John, a Jew, reads and interprets the Law and attempts to correct a misreading of that same Law.
Tim, if you could read my paper to the end, I think you might find it very interesting.
My paper can be found at the following link on Joe Gagne's website: http://www.fourthgospel.com/estrada.htm
Matthew Estrada
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Gal 2:19 & Rom 7
, (continued)
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Gal 2:19 & Rom 7,
Loren Rosson, 08/11/2004
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Gal 2:19 & Rom 7,
Rabbi Saul, 08/11/2004
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Gal 2:19 & Rom 7,
meta, 08/12/2004
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Gal 2:19 & Rom 7,
Rabbi Saul, 08/12/2004
- Re: [Corpus-Paul] Gal 2:19 & Rom 7, meta, 08/12/2004
- Re: [Corpus-Paul] Gal 2:19 & Rom 7, Rabbi Saul, 08/12/2004
- Re: [Corpus-Paul] Gal 2:19 & Rom 7, meta, 08/13/2004
- Coherence and sovereignty (Was: Re: [Corpus-Paul] Gal 2:19 & Rom 7), Rabbi Saul, 08/13/2004
- Re: Coherence and sovereignty (Was: Re: [Corpus-Paul] Gal 2:19 & Rom 7), Jim West, 08/13/2004
- Re: Coherence and sovereignty (Was: Re: [Corpus-Paul] Gal 2:19 & Rom7), Rabbi Saul, 08/14/2004
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Gal 2:19 & Rom 7,
Rabbi Saul, 08/12/2004
- Re: [Corpus-Paul] Gal 2:19 & Rom 7, Matthew Estrada, 08/13/2004
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Gal 2:19 & Rom 7,
meta, 08/12/2004
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Gal 2:19 & Rom 7,
Rabbi Saul, 08/11/2004
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Re: [Corpus-Paul] Gal 2:19 & Rom 7,
Loren Rosson, 08/11/2004
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