Corpus-Paul

["John Dickson" <jdickson AT bigpond.com>]

Ron Price wrote:

> Paul says here that he "received" these views. But he does not say where
> from. Inthe light of Gal 1:11-12 it is quite reasonable to deduce that the
key
> theological elements in 1 Cor 15:1-8 were received by "revelation"
> rather than tradition.

Against this is the exegetical point that the KAI before the verb
PARALAMBANW (v.3) implies that Paul's receipt of the EUAGGELION was in like
manner to his 'handing over' (PARADIDWMI) of the same to the Corinthians -
"I ALSO received ..."  In other words, Paul too was a recipient of a 'human'
PARADOSIS.
Furthermore, how does Ron Price understand v.11, "whether it was I or they,
hOUTWS KHRUSSOMEN"?  Is Paul baldly 'fibbing'? Or, more improbably, was he,
in fact, the source of 'their' (Cephas, James, et al)  belief in /
proclamation of  the above gospel-tradition? Or is the traditional reading
the most plausible: Paul preaches what others before him and along side him
preach(ed), namely, that Jesus died for sins and was raised?
Regards,
John Dickson
Department of Ancient History
Macquarie University
Sydney, Australia

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Price" <ron.price AT virgin.net>
To: "Corpus-paul" <corpus-paul AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 10:02 PM
Subject: [corpus-paul] Paul's gospel (was: " Pauline and Johannine
theology")


> Frank Hughes wrote:
>
> >I'm quite surprised that noone has brought up 1 Cor 15:1-8 where Paul
very
> >explicitly mentions both the death and resurrection of Christ as what is
> >quite properly called prepauline tradition.
>
> Frank,
>   It is the view that Jesus "died for our sins" and "was raised" from
> the dead were pre-Pauline traditions that I am challenging. Paul says
> here that he "received" these views. But he does not say where from. In
> the light of Gal 1:11-12 it is quite reasonable to deduce that the key
> theological elements in 1 Cor 15:1-8 were received by "revelation"
> rather than tradition.
>   There is no reliable evidence that anyone prior to Paul held these
> views.
>
> > ....... it is ... part of what certainly seems to be common Christian
> > tradition that one can see all over the NT.
>
>   Yes. But why do we see it all over the NT? Because Paul's influence
> was so widespread. All four canonical gospel writers were influenced
> directly or indirectly by Paul's theology. The only primitive document
> written by the early followers of Jesus *not* to have been influenced by
> Paul was the Sayings Source, which has to be reconstructed from Matthew
> and Luke. (This is a subject I've researched, but it's a topic for
> another List!)
>
> Ron Price
>
> Weston-on-Trent, Derby, UK
>
> e-mail:  ron.price AT virgin.net
>
> Web site:  http://homepage.virgin.net/ron.price/index.htm
>
>
>
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