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- From: "moon-ryul jung" <moon AT saint.soongsil.ac.kr>
- To: corpus-paul AT franklin.oit.unc.edu
- Subject: Re: THOSE UNDER THE LAW (To Loren and Mark)
- Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 01:08:38 -0400
Dear Loren,
our discussion becomes quite interesting and seems to go somewhere.
You raised a very important question. I would like to have time
to think about it.
Moon
> Hello Moon,
>
> For now Ill focus only on the text of Gal. 3:10-14:
>
> > It is natural to take "we" in Gal. 3:13 to refer to
> > the Jews. Otherwise, the logical sequence from 3:13
> > to 3:14 would be broken, and we would have to
> > interpret so that they refer to the same thing.
>
[Loren]
> It is most unnatural to take we in 3:13 as referring
> to Jews, if for no other reason than because Paul
> hardly believed that the Jewish people needed
> redeeming from the law as a curse. In antiquity,
> being under a curse meant that you were in just
> about the most disastrous state imaginable. We need to
> tread carefully here:
>
> 3:10: For all who rely on the works of the law are
> under a curse. For it is written, Cursed is everyone
> who does not observe and obey all things written in
> the book of law.
>
> Allrefers to Gentiles, for Paul didnt believe that
> Jews who relied on the works of the law were under a
> curse. On the contrary, he knew very well that they
> could observe and obey all things written in the book
> of law, and he himself is a stellar example (Philip.
> 3:6).
>
> 3:11-12: Now it is evident that no one is justified
> before God by the law, for the one who is righteous
> will live by faith. But the law does not rest on
> faith. On the contrary, whoever does the works of the
> law will live by them.
>
> This citation of texts makes for awkward reading. Paul
> says that the law is not connected with faith, but
> that the person who performs the works of the law
> will live by them. To me, this implies that no one
> actually performs the works of the law adequately,
> because life comes from faith, not the Torah. On your
> (and Dunns) own reading of works of the law -- as
> Jewish identity markers, as opposed to deeds in
> general (with which I agree) -- this can only refer
> to Gentiles. The Jewish people performed the works of
> the law (circumcision, purity regulations, etc.) more
> than adequately.
>
> 3:13-14: Christ redeemed us from the curse of the
> law, by becoming a curse for us -- for it is written,
> Cursed be everyone who hangs on a tree -- in order
> that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might
> come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the
> promise of the Spirit through faith.
>
> Paraphrase: Christ redeemed us Gentiles from the
> curse of the law by becoming a curse for us Gentiles
> -- for it is written, Cursed be everyone who hangs on
> a tree -- in order that in Christ Jesus the blessing
> of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we
> Gentiles might receive the promise of the Spirit
> through faith. This may sound redundant ("referring
> to the same thing", as you put it), but its no more
> awkward than the text of 3:11-12 (and not a few other
> Pauline passages) -- and its the only sense I can
> make of the text in light of what precedes it. To undo
> the redundancy, paraphrase it this way:
>
> Christ redeemed us Gentiles from the curse of the law
> by becoming a curse -- for it is written, Cursed be
> everyone who hangs on a tree -- in order that the
> blessing of Abraham may come, so that we Gentiles
> might receive the promise of the Spirit through
> faith.
>
> Moon, the context of Galatians -- Gentile Christians
> considering proselyte conversion apropos Gentile
> non-Christian proselyte influencers -- convinces me
> that this reading of Gal. 3:10-14 is correct, even if
> it makes for somewhat redundant reading... and even if
> your own reading follows as a logical and rhetorical
> implication.
>
> Best,
>
> Loren Rosson III,
> Nashua NH
> rossoiii AT yahoo.com
>
>
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THOSE UNDER THE LAW (To Loren and Mark),
moon-ryul jung, 10/12/2000
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: THOSE UNDER THE LAW (To Loren and Mark), Loren Rosson, 10/12/2000
- Re: THOSE UNDER THE LAW (To Loren and Mark), Loren Rosson, 10/13/2000
- Re: THOSE UNDER THE LAW (To Loren and Mark), moon-ryul jung, 10/16/2000
- Re: THOSE UNDER THE LAW (To Loren and Mark), Loren Rosson, 10/17/2000
- Re: THOSE UNDER THE LAW (To Loren and Mark), Loren Rosson III, 10/19/2000
- Re: THOSE UNDER THE LAW (To Loren and Mark), moon-ryul jung, 10/20/2000
- Re: THOSE UNDER THE LAW (To Loren and Mark), moon-ryul jung, 10/20/2000
- Re: THOSE UNDER THE LAW (To Loren and Mark), moon-ryul jung, 10/20/2000
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