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Re: Rom 7, Pauline eschatology, and other questions
- From: "Jeffrey B. Gibson" <jgibson000 AT mailhost.chi.ameritech.net>
- To: Corpus-paul <corpus-paul AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
- Subject: Re: Rom 7, Pauline eschatology, and other questions
- Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 11:24:56 -0600
Christopher Hutson wrote:
>From: "Jeffrey B. Gibson" <jgibson000 AT mailhost.chi.ameritech.net>Christopher,I guess, then, what I am asking List Members to comment upon are the questions of (a) how much Pauline eschatology is rooted in and mirrors Jesus', (b) how much the crisis language of Paul is a reflection of Jesus own sense of political reality, and (c) how much of Jesus' own sense of what might lead to Israel's doom informs Paul's missionary activity. I want to make the case that Paul's eschatology is that of Jesus as Caird, Wright, and Borg have outlined what Jesus' was. Or in other words, I want to argue for a non-apocalyptic eschatological Paul, and to explore the 1st cent. Palestinian conflict with Rome brought on by the "politics of Holiness" as the context of Paul's view of the Law, Sin, and his "doctrine" of Justification. I have the feeling that such an exploration would have ramifications, too, for the PISTIS XRISTOU debate.
Jeffrey,This is an interesting set of questions, but I am confused by your
intent "to argue for a non-apocalyptic eschatological Paul." What in
the world would that be? What sort of eschatology do you envision
that would not be apocalyptic? It seems to me that the whole notion
of TA ESXATA is an apocalyptic notion. So if you want to argue that
Paul's theology is not apocalyptic, wouldn't you also need to argue
that it is likewise not eschatological? How do you separate these two
ideas?
To me apocalyptic-eschatology is literalistic and envisions a real and imminent end to space-time. Non-apocalyptic eschatology deals with an "end" that takes place within history and uses the language of apocalyptic to describe certain events within history in terms of their significance for the destiny of Israel.
Does this help?
Yours,
Jeffrey
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Rom 7, Pauline eschatology, and other questions,
Jeffrey B. Gibson, 03/29/1999
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: Rom 7, Pauline eschatology, and other questions, Jeff Peterson, 03/30/1999
- Re: Rom 7, Pauline eschatology, and other questions, Christopher Hutson, 03/30/1999
- Re: Rom 7, Pauline eschatology, and other questions, Jeffrey B. Gibson, 03/30/1999
- Re: Rom 7, Pauline eschatology, and other questions, Christopher Hutson, 03/30/1999
- RE: Rom 7, Pauline eschatology, and other questions, Liz Fried, 03/30/1999
- Re: Rom 7, Pauline eschatology, and other questions, FucciXXV, 03/30/1999
- Re: Rom 7, Pauline eschatology, and other questions, Ronald Troxel, 03/31/1999
- Re: Rom 7, Pauline eschatology, and other questions, FucciXXV, 03/31/1999
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