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From: m.norsen AT attbi.com
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Subject: [Compostteas] Re: Compostteas digest, Vol 1 #51 - 10 msgs
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 05:13:02 +0000

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> 1. Re: teamakers (D)
> 2. Re: teamakers (Corinna Garmon)
> 3. subscribe (Skip Haak)
> 4. subscribe (whuber)
> 5. subscribe (Linda Penovich)
> 6. Registration (The Grahams)
> 7. Re: nutrient analysis of teas (Tom Jaszewski)
> 8. Re: Upgrading SoilSoup (Tom Jaszewski)
> 9. 12 volt air driven 1.16 hp tea generator (m.norsen AT attbi.com)
> 10. RE: 12 volt air driven 1.16 hp tea generator (Jeff Lowenfels)
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> Message: 1
> From: "D" <madhava AT fidalgo.net>
> To: <garmonorganics AT earthlink.net>, <compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: [Compostteas] teamakers
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 09:56:04 -0700
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> Corinna,
> What size brewer are you looking for?
>
> Daniel
>
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: Corinna Garmon=20
> To: compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org=20
> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 12:00 AM
> Subject: [Compostteas] teamakers
>
>
>
> Hello - I am a small organic grower west of Atlanta, Georgia. I am =
> very interested in using compost teas (especially on tomatoes to help =
> control blight). Has anyone had good success? Also - are there any =
> inexpensive yet good tea makers out there? I can't afford the ones I've =
> seen so far. $100-200 would be my budget. I'd appreciate any help you =
> could give. =20
> Thank you - Corinna
>
> --- Corinna Garmon
> --- garmonorganics AT earthlink.net
> ---327 Old Four Notch Road
> --- Whitesburg, GA 30185
> --- 770.214.8531 phone/fax
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Corinna,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What size brewer are you looking =
> for?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Daniel</FONT></DIV>
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> <A title=3Dgarmonorganics AT earthlink.net=20
> href=3D"mailto:garmonorganics AT earthlink.net";>Corinna Garmon</A> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
> title=3Dcompostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org=20
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> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 24, 2002 =
> 12:00=20
> AM</DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Compostteas] =
> teamakers</DIV>
> <DIV><BR></DIV>
> <P>
> <DIV></DIV>
> <DIV>Hello - I am a small organic grower west of Atlanta, =
> Georgia.  I am=20
> very interested in using compost teas (especially on tomatoes to help =
> control=20
> blight).  Has anyone had good success?  Also - are there any =
>
> inexpensive yet good tea makers out there?  I can't afford the =
> ones I've=20
> seen so far.  $100-200 would be my budget.  I'd appreciate =
> any help=20
> you could give.  </DIV>
> <DIV>Thank you - Corinna</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>--- Corinna Garmon</DIV>
> <DIV>--- <A=20
> =
> href=3D"mailto:garmonorganics AT earthlink.net";>garmonorganics AT earthlink.net=
> </A></DIV>
> <DIV>---327 Old Four Notch Road</DIV>
> <DIV>--- Whitesburg, GA  30185</DIV>
> <DIV>--- 770.214.8531 phone/fax</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <P></P>_______________________________________________ Compostteas =
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> Message: 2
> Reply-To: garmonorganics AT earthlink.net
> From: "Corinna Garmon" <garmonorganics AT earthlink.net>
> To: compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org, "D" <madhava AT fidalgo.net>
> Subject: Re: [Compostteas] teamakers
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 14:45:58 -0400
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> <DIV>Wow!  Thanks for the fast response.</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>We have around 1 acre in mixed vegetable production where we would
> like to
> use the compost tea the most.  We also have 1 1/2 acres of vineyard
> and 1
> acre of blueberries that would probably benefit from tea.  I guess 5 -
> 10
> gallons of high quality tea at a time would about do it.</DIV>
> <DIV>Corinna</DIV>
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> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: >
> black"><B>From:</B> <A href="mailto:madhava AT fidalgo.net";
> title=madhava AT fidalgo.net>D</A> </DIV>
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To: </B><A
> href="mailto:madhava AT fidalgo.net";
> title=madhava AT fidalgo.net>compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org</A>;<A
> href="mailto:madhava AT fidalgo.net";
> title=madhava AT fidalgo.net>garmonorganics AT earthlink.net</A></DIV>
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 6/24/02 1:34:50 PM </DIV>
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Compostteas]
> teamakers</DIV>
> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=2>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Corinna,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What size brewer are you looking
> for?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Daniel</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
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> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color:
> black"><B>From:</B> <A href="mailto:garmonorganics AT earthlink.net";
> title=garmonorganics AT earthlink.net>Corinna Garmon</A> </DIV>
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
> href="mailto:compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org";
> title=compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org>compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org</A> </DIV>
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 24, 2002 12:00
> AM</DIV>
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Compostteas] teamakers</DIV>
> <DIV><BR></DIV>
> <P>
> <DIV></DIV>
> <DIV>Hello - I am a small organic grower west of Atlanta, Georgia.  I
> am
> very interested in using compost teas (especially on tomatoes to help
> control
> blight).  Has anyone had good success?  Also - are there any
> inexpensive yet good tea makers out there?  I can't afford the ones
> I've
> seen so far.  $100-200 would be my budget.  I'd appreciate any
> help
> you could give.  </DIV>
> <DIV>Thank you - Corinna</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>--- Corinna Garmon</DIV>
> <DIV>--- <A
> href="mailto:garmonorganics AT earthlink.net";>garmonorganics AT earthlink.net</A></DIV
> >
> <DIV>---327 Old Four Notch Road</DIV>
> <DIV>--- Whitesburg, GA  30185</DIV>
> <DIV>--- 770.214.8531 phone/fax</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <P></P>_______________________________________________ Compostteas mailing
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> <DIV>--- Corinna Garmon</DIV>
> <DIV>--- <A
> href="mailto:garmonorganics AT earthlink.net";>garmonorganics AT earthlink.net</A></DIV
> >
> <DIV>---327 Old Four Notch Road</DIV>
> <DIV>--- Whitesburg, GA  30185</DIV>
> <DIV>--- 770.214.8531 phone/fax</DIV>
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> Message: 3
> From: Skip Haak <skip_haak AT pbsenv.com>
> To: "'compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org'" <compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 06:34:09 -0700
> Subject: [Compostteas] subscribe
>
>
>
> Skip Haak, Senior Scientist/Technical Mgr.
> PBS Engineering and Environmental
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 08:26:10 -0700
> From: whuber <whuber AT jeffnet.org>
> To: compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: [Compostteas] subscribe
>
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>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 10:10:45 -0700
> From: Linda Penovich <lpenovic AT krl.org>
> To: compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: [Compostteas] subscribe
>
> subscribe lpenovic AT krl.org
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 15:04:55 -0700
> From: The Grahams <grahams AT open.org>
> To: <compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: [Compostteas] Registration
>
> How do I go about getting "on the list'?
>
> Regards,
> Russ
>
>
> --
> Russell Graham - Purveyor of Plants - grahams AT open.org - Zone 7 - Salem,
> Oregon
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> Message: 7
> From: "Tom Jaszewski" <tomj AT lvcm.com>
> To: <eddington AT lvcm.com>, <Compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: [Compostteas] nutrient analysis of teas
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 16:33:58 -0700
>
> Most of us, serious about tea, have indeed tested for nutrient value.
> Traditional nutrient analyses are nothing more than a very rough guide. The
> idea of answering and giving recommendations without any information is
> dangerous and irresponsible. Any tank mixes without adequate research and
> testing are nothing more than flirting with disaster. Yes, we are
> fertilizing with our tea. Helena has products that provide nutrients, and we
> have also found small quantities of fish emulsion to be effective. I really
> worry about the state of our technology when we rush out and try to
> "consult" in areas we are ill prepared to work in. I have 15 years of
> managing large botanical collections and wouldn't dream of trying to create
> "one shot" fertilization programs. "Basic" nutrients are certainly able to
> disrupt an already tenuous balance.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <eddington AT lvcm.com>
> To: <Compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 7:57 AM
> Subject: [Compostteas] nutrient analysis of teas
>
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Has anyone done a complete nutrient analysis of their tea? I have a
> > vineyard we are working with, and we thought of adding any additional
> > nutrients specific to their program to the teas not in the tank but as we
> > fill their drums so they can use the tea for their entire fertilizing
> > program and get it all done in one shot. Is anyone already doing this?
> > I am wondering if anything if anything we add (basic nutrients) might be
> > harmful to our microorganisms or if we should do this in two separate
> > steps like they do now?
> >
> > Carole Eddington
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> From: "Tom Jaszewski" <tomj AT lvcm.com>
> To: "J Peter Young" <peter AT sonomavineyardland.com>,
> <compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: [Compostteas] Upgrading SoilSoup
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 18:10:45 -0700
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> Bruce Elliot sells a good "sock". I also found a number of good =
> alternatives at http://www.mcmaster.com/
> Search for "filter bags". There is a confusing assortment of "socks".
>
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: J Peter Young=20
> To: compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org=20
> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 8:40 AM
> Subject: [Compostteas] Upgrading SoilSoup
>
>
> I have a 175 gallon SoilSoup tea maker that I am using on my vineyard =
> and I
> want to make a few improvements. First I want to change the fabric =
> "socks"
> that it uses so I can get better fungal extraction - any suggestions =
> on
> other systems to use. I also need to ad a lot more air. I was going to =
> use
> an air stone or industrial waste treatment air diffuser - can anyone
> recommend one and a good pump to use?
>
> Peter
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bruce Elliot sells a good "sock". I =
> also found a=20
> number of good alternatives at <A=20
> href=3D"http://www.mcmaster.com/";>http://www.mcmaster.com/</A></FONT></DI=
> V>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Search for "filter bags". There is a =
> confusing=20
> assortment of "socks".</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV></DIV>
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> black"><B>From:</B>=20
> <A title=3Dpeter AT sonomavineyardland.com=20
> href=3D"mailto:peter AT sonomavineyardland.com";>J Peter Young</A> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
> title=3Dcompostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org=20
> =
> href=3D"mailto:compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org";>compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.o=
> rg</A>=20
> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 24, 2002 =
> 8:40 AM</DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Compostteas] =
> Upgrading=20
> SoilSoup</DIV>
> <DIV><BR></DIV>
> <DIV>I have a 175 gallon SoilSoup tea maker that I am using on my =
> vineyard and=20
> I<BR>want to make a few improvements. First I want to change the =
> fabric=20
> "socks"<BR>that it uses so I can get better fungal extraction - any=20
> suggestions on<BR>other systems to use. I also need to ad a lot more =
> air. I=20
> was going to use<BR>an air stone or industrial waste treatment air =
> diffuser -=20
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> Message: 9
> From: m.norsen AT attbi.com
> To: compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 04:26:28 +0000
> Subject: [Compostteas] 12 volt air driven 1.16 hp tea generator
>
> Approx 30 gallon tea generator driven by 12 volt 1/16th
> hp air compressor. 30 gallons in 12 hours normal
> production. will you solar output pull that HP?
> Probably need a storage battery to load up for a few
> days, then run thru one day. Hard way to get power.
>
> cost of the brewer ready to go in your 30 to 50 gallon
> container is $ 675.00. Reply m.norsen AT attbi.com
>
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> Message: 10
> From: "Jeff Lowenfels" <jeff AT gardener.com>
> To: <m.norsen AT attbi.com>, <compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: RE: [Compostteas] 12 volt air driven 1.16 hp tea generator
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 23:43:39 -0700
>
> O.K. I will bite:
>
> <cost of the brewer ready to go in your 30 to 50 gallon
> container is $ 675.00>
>
> and it makes tea in 12 hours.
>
> How does the tea test out? If we need to raise the limit on KBs to list it,
> we will gladly do so. In fact, anyone selling a tea maker should do the
> same! And, anyone buying a teamaker without asking for test results is
> getting, what?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jeff L
> ______________________________________________
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