Creative Commons Aotearoa New Zealand discussion

[paul reynolds <paul.reynolds AT mcgovern.co.nz>]

I think, first up, we owe Jane a thankyou for her account to the list.
I would definitly support the key point that the wider stakeholder
community which was involved at the onset of CCANZ needs to reassemble
- probably regionally - to give their views on the future governance
and work plan for CCANZ.

If this approach is accepted , including by those who may be in the
offing re funding support - then we need to start thining  about the
who when and what.

As to the immediate governance issues. I understand the CC mandate for
NZ is till held by the Humanities Baord and that the Royal Society.
has not  yet confirmed its intention to accept responsibility for the
CCANZ.  And that they are unlikely to do so without some external
financial support.

This interegnum  seems to me to be all to the good because it allows
the debate as to who should hold the mandate to proceed.

And that might be a great point to discuss on this list.


Paul

On 12/18/09, Ian Thomson <ithomson.nz AT gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Jane,
>
> We can see that it has been a difficult time for you and I am sorry that you
> have had to face all these issues with little support.
>
> There is a strong community of interest around CCNZ and I can see it is time
> for them to step up to the mark and see how we can help move
> forward.Unfortunately I an now based overseas, but what ever help I can give
> electroincally, I will.
>
> Ian
>
> 2009/12/17 Jane Hornibrook <janehornibrook AT gmail.com>
>
>> Thanks Paul Suthland, Ian Thompson and Paul Reynolds for your thoughts. I
>> will try to answer some of your queries.
>>
>> Curiously I'm making this point despite, as far as I know, still being a
>> Board member of the the Humanities Network Board.
>> Given that it hasn't met for an eaon - and its current status is unknown -
>> this is hardly surprising - but it is, at least to me, another part of my
>> concern.
>>
>> I can't answer on behalf of the HRN board as to why it hasn't met over the
>> 2009 period, but that in it's absence I was fortunately able to report
>> directly to the Council for the Humanities. Dr Lousie O'Brien retired from
>> the Humanities Research Network early this year, and I have been
>> attempting
>> to maintain it's website at a bare minimum since then as there hasn't been
>> a
>> replacement for her.
>>
>> I cant see the two forums mentioned - i looked at
>> http://www.humanitiesresearch.net/collaborative_forum/digital_strategymaybe
>> I am looking in the wrong place.
>>
>> Try here:
>> http://www.humanitiesresearch.net/forums/general/humanities_within_the_royal_society
>>
>> An explanation (without implying an excuse) as to why there has been a
>> lack
>> of transparency surrounding the developments within CCANZ.
>>
>> In answer to your question Paul about the lack of work being done on CCANZ
>> during February 2010 (and your reference to academic holidays), there are
>> no
>> academics working on this project. In fact, CCANZ has consisted this year
>> of
>> Stephanie and of myself, an inexperienced graduate, employed to maintain
>> the
>> "website", on part time hours, with little to no organisational resources
>> and with zero certainty about any future of CCANZ two months in advance.
>> This scenario hasn't left much room for the publication of discussion
>> papers. If leave was not taken during the month of January, and
>> discussions
>> started back in February, CCANZ would not be able to sustain its part time
>> staff during the critical period of mid-2010 when funding and project
>> jurisdiction matters will be finalised.
>>
>> Of course CCANZ should not be run like this, hence the purpose of the HRN
>> board. Stephanie and I have not forgotten that CC needs an independent and
>> multi-sector governance for CC next year within a new host, and the RSNZ
>> have also recognised the need for a revived independant structure in the
>> spirit of the HRN board.
>>
>> CCANZ founder, Dr Brian Opie retired from the Council in 2008, and
>> Stephanie Pietkiewicz has been extremely helpful in initiating discussions
>> with various parties and intuitions about the way forward for CCANZ, and
>> advocating for the project within the Council for the Humanities (which
>> has
>> unfortunately decided at this late stage not to keep it). It was never my
>> wish to keep the intentions of the Council and its decision on CCANZ
>> "veiled", but have found the dynamics around it's negotiations with the
>> RSNZ
>> (which invariably include those of CCANZ) haven't made it easy for either
>> Stephanie or I to initiate public feedback.
>>
>>
>> For these reasons I have failed to
>>
>> 1. Encourage the appropriate people to maintain the HRN board function, or
>> encourage more transparency for Council business.
>>
>> 2. Develop a system whereby the community and stakeholders can become
>> involved in the beginning of the decision making process.
>>
>> 3. Acquaint myself fully with the process in which CCANZ was first brought
>> to New Zealand, and realise the protocols and procedures that should
>> surround further actions.
>>
>> I am deeply sorry for this incompetency, and that I've let you down. I
>> will
>> try my to ensure that the project is furnished next year with the relevant
>> expertise and experience when I leave the CCANZ as soon as I am able.
>>
>> With regards,
>>
>> Jane
>>
>> --
>> Jane Hornibrook
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>
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