Creative Commons Aotearoa New Zealand discussion

["Leonie Hayes" <l.hayes AT auckland.ac.nz>]

Hello all 

Could someone let me know about using ported NZ licenses?

Can I use this one?

http://creativecommons.org/license/?jurisdiction=nz

Its currently not on the main jurisdiction drop down list. Or linked
from the website so I was not sure if its really ok to use.

We want to integrate the licensing into our system for users who submit
content and have a working pilot using the generic license, but it would
be great to pilot the NZ one.

Many thanks for any info

Leonie Hayes
http://researchspace.auckland.ac.nz 
http://www.library.auckland.ac.nz/contacts/?firstname=&lastname=hayes&de
ptid=

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Today's Topics:

   1. Video conferencing for CC-NZ (Danyl Strype)
   2. Re: Video conferencing for CC-NZ (Robin Sheat)
   3. Re: Video conferencing for CC-NZ (Paul Reynolds)
   4. Re: Video conferencing for CC-NZ (Ian Thomson)
   5. Re: Video conferencing for CC-NZ (Sam Searle)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:24:11 +1300
From: Danyl Strype <strypey AT riseup.net>
Subject: [Cc-nz] Video conferencing for CC-NZ
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Kia ora koutou

I would be very keen to experiment with open source, open standard video
conferencing systems. Would be useful for other free culture projects I
am involved in too, eg Indymedia.

However, we also have an offer from Sam Searle to use the KAREN
high-bandwidth network to have a CC webconference. Is anyone keen on
doing this? What would be on the agenda?

RnB
Strypes

Quoting Leigh Blackall <leighblackall AT gmail.com>:

> I tried Gizmo about a year ago and while it worked well one to one.. I
could
> never get the conference feature to work reliably. Haven't tried the
others,
> thanks for the pointer.
>
> On 10/31/07, adam <adam AT xs4all.nl> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Sam. I'm inspired to grow burns myself now :) CC Sideburns :)
>> >
>> > I've been looking for a reliable FOSS webconference alternative. I
had
>> > hopes
>> > for DimDim but it seems to have stalled. I expect Google will
announce
>> web
>> > conferencing soon (hopefully will be via open standard). We (Otago
>> > Polytechnic) use Elluminate for webconferencing.. we could possibly
use
>> > that
>> > sometimes.. and there's SecondLife - to follow CC.orgs lead for a
bit
>> > there...
>>
>> gizmo (http://gizmoproject.com/) ? openwengo(http://openwengo.com/)?
>> ..linphone or ekiga and asterisk if you are real keen...
>>
>>
>> adam
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > On 10/30/07, Sam Stephens <sam AT postmoderncore.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Great idea, except Skype is a proprietry/closed platform. I'm sure
>> >> there's a free/open alternative we could use instead.
>> >>
>> >> Nice to meet you briefly Leigh - I was the guy with the sideburns
who
>> >> said hi at the end shortly before you left.
>> >>
>> >> On 30/10/2007 8:41 a.m., Leigh Blackall wrote:
>> >> > At the launch, a colleague in NL was having trouble picking up
the
>> >> > videostream. He was getting the video but not the audio. I was
>> sending
>> >> > the audio via skype through my laptop, which was a great
experience
>> >> for
>> >> > us as we were txting me links as the people were talking. May I
>> >> propose
>> >> > Skypecast.com <http://Skypecast.com> next time we have an event?
>> Links
>> >> > relating to that skype chat were saved at
>> >> > http://del.icio.us/leighblackall/ccnz
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> cc-nz mailing list
>> >> cc-nz AT lists.ibiblio.org
>> >> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-nz
>> >> Creative Commons Aotearoa New Zealand
>> >> http://www.creativecommons.org.nz/
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > --
>> > Leigh Blackall
>> > +64(0)21736539
>> > skype - leigh_blackall
>> > http://learnonline.wordpress.com
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > cc-nz mailing list
>> > cc-nz AT lists.ibiblio.org
>> > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-nz
>> > Creative Commons Aotearoa New Zealand
>> > http://www.creativecommons.org.nz/
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> cc-nz mailing list
>> cc-nz AT lists.ibiblio.org
>> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-nz
>> Creative Commons Aotearoa New Zealand
>> http://www.creativecommons.org.nz/
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> Leigh Blackall
> +64(0)21736539
> skype - leigh_blackall
> SL - Leroy Goalpost
> http://learnonline.wordpress.com
>



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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 14:31:46 +1300
From: Robin Sheat <robin AT kallisti.net.nz>
Subject: Re: [Cc-nz] Video conferencing for CC-NZ
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On Saturday 03 November 2007 14:24:11 Danyl Strype wrote:
> However, we also have an offer from Sam Searle to use the KAREN ?
> high-bandwidth network to have a CC webconference. Is anyone keen on ?
> doing this? What would be on the agenda?
I have access to KAREN down here from my laptop (when I'm at
university), and 
am willing to help where I can. I have no webcam hardware, but if anyone
can 
recommend a cheap one that works with Linux, I'm happy to help
experiment.

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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 20:13:03 +1300
From: "Paul Reynolds" <paul.reynolds AT mcgovern.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [Cc-nz] Video conferencing for CC-NZ
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If you want to see some open source tools which also involve KAREN, have
a look at the excellent BESTGrid project from Paul Bonnington.

http://www.bestgrid.org/index.php/Main_Page

best
p.



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[mailto:cc-nz-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Danyl Strype
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Subject: [Cc-nz] Video conferencing for CC-NZ

Kia ora koutou

I would be very keen to experiment with open source, open standard  
video conferencing systems. Would be useful for other free culture  
projects I am involved in too, eg Indymedia.

However, we also have an offer from Sam Searle to use the KAREN  
high-bandwidth network to have a CC webconference. Is anyone keen on  
doing this? What would be on the agenda?

RnB
Strypes

Quoting Leigh Blackall <leighblackall AT gmail.com>:

> I tried Gizmo about a year ago and while it worked well one to one.. I
could
> never get the conference feature to work reliably. Haven't tried the
others,
> thanks for the pointer.
>
> On 10/31/07, adam <adam AT xs4all.nl> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Sam. I'm inspired to grow burns myself now :) CC Sideburns :)
>> >
>> > I've been looking for a reliable FOSS webconference alternative. I
had
>> > hopes
>> > for DimDim but it seems to have stalled. I expect Google will
announce
>> web
>> > conferencing soon (hopefully will be via open standard). We (Otago
>> > Polytechnic) use Elluminate for webconferencing.. we could possibly
use
>> > that
>> > sometimes.. and there's SecondLife - to follow CC.orgs lead for a
bit
>> > there...
>>
>> gizmo (http://gizmoproject.com/) ? openwengo(http://openwengo.com/)?
>> ..linphone or ekiga and asterisk if you are real keen...
>>
>>
>> adam
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > On 10/30/07, Sam Stephens <sam AT postmoderncore.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Great idea, except Skype is a proprietry/closed platform. I'm sure
>> >> there's a free/open alternative we could use instead.
>> >>
>> >> Nice to meet you briefly Leigh - I was the guy with the sideburns
who
>> >> said hi at the end shortly before you left.
>> >>
>> >> On 30/10/2007 8:41 a.m., Leigh Blackall wrote:
>> >> > At the launch, a colleague in NL was having trouble picking up
the
>> >> > videostream. He was getting the video but not the audio. I was
>> sending
>> >> > the audio via skype through my laptop, which was a great
experience
>> >> for
>> >> > us as we were txting me links as the people were talking. May I
>> >> propose
>> >> > Skypecast.com <http://Skypecast.com> next time we have an event?
>> Links
>> >> > relating to that skype chat were saved at
>> >> > http://del.icio.us/leighblackall/ccnz
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> cc-nz mailing list
>> >> cc-nz AT lists.ibiblio.org
>> >> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-nz
>> >> Creative Commons Aotearoa New Zealand
>> >> http://www.creativecommons.org.nz/
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > --
>> > Leigh Blackall
>> > +64(0)21736539
>> > skype - leigh_blackall
>> > http://learnonline.wordpress.com
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > cc-nz mailing list
>> > cc-nz AT lists.ibiblio.org
>> > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-nz
>> > Creative Commons Aotearoa New Zealand
>> > http://www.creativecommons.org.nz/
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> cc-nz mailing list
>> cc-nz AT lists.ibiblio.org
>> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-nz
>> Creative Commons Aotearoa New Zealand
>> http://www.creativecommons.org.nz/
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> Leigh Blackall
> +64(0)21736539
> skype - leigh_blackall
> SL - Leroy Goalpost
> http://learnonline.wordpress.com
>



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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 19:00:44 +1300
From: "Ian Thomson" <ithomson.nz AT gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Cc-nz] Video conferencing for CC-NZ
To: "Creative Commons Aotearoa New Zealand discussion"
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Hi All,

I am conscious that most of the CC work to date has been Wellington
centric.
We do need to be more inclusive and I think KAREN VCs would be a great
way
to do that.

We face a big challenge to raise awareness of the use and benefits of NZ
CC
and using these tools would certainly help.

Ian

On 03/11/2007, Danyl Strype <strypey AT riseup.net> wrote:
>
> Kia ora koutou
>
> I would be very keen to experiment with open source, open standard
> video conferencing systems. Would be useful for other free culture
> projects I am involved in too, eg Indymedia.
>
> However, we also have an offer from Sam Searle to use the KAREN
> high-bandwidth network to have a CC webconference. Is anyone keen on
> doing this? What would be on the agenda?
>
> RnB
> Strypes
>
> Quoting Leigh Blackall <leighblackall AT gmail.com>:
>
> > I tried Gizmo about a year ago and while it worked well one to one..
I
> could
> > never get the conference feature to work reliably. Haven't tried the
> others,
> > thanks for the pointer.
> >
> > On 10/31/07, adam <adam AT xs4all.nl> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi Sam. I'm inspired to grow burns myself now :) CC Sideburns :)
> >> >
> >> > I've been looking for a reliable FOSS webconference alternative.
I
> had
> >> > hopes
> >> > for DimDim but it seems to have stalled. I expect Google will
> announce
> >> web
> >> > conferencing soon (hopefully will be via open standard). We
(Otago
> >> > Polytechnic) use Elluminate for webconferencing.. we could
possibly
> use
> >> > that
> >> > sometimes.. and there's SecondLife - to follow CC.orgs lead for a
bit
> >> > there...
> >>
> >> gizmo (http://gizmoproject.com/) ?
openwengo(http://openwengo.com/)?
> >> ..linphone or ekiga and asterisk if you are real keen...
> >>
> >>
> >> adam
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > On 10/30/07, Sam Stephens <sam AT postmoderncore.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Great idea, except Skype is a proprietry/closed platform. I'm
sure
> >> >> there's a free/open alternative we could use instead.
> >> >>
> >> >> Nice to meet you briefly Leigh - I was the guy with the
sideburns
> who
> >> >> said hi at the end shortly before you left.
> >> >>
> >> >> On 30/10/2007 8:41 a.m., Leigh Blackall wrote:
> >> >> > At the launch, a colleague in NL was having trouble picking up
the
> >> >> > videostream. He was getting the video but not the audio. I was
> >> sending
> >> >> > the audio via skype through my laptop, which was a great
> experience
> >> >> for
> >> >> > us as we were txting me links as the people were talking. May
I
> >> >> propose
> >> >> > Skypecast.com <http://Skypecast.com> next time we have an
event?
> >> Links
> >> >> > relating to that skype chat were saved at
> >> >> > http://del.icio.us/leighblackall/ccnz
> >> >>
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> cc-nz mailing list
> >> >> cc-nz AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >> >> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-nz
> >> >> Creative Commons Aotearoa New Zealand
> >> >> http://www.creativecommons.org.nz/
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > --
> >> > Leigh Blackall
> >> > +64(0)21736539
> >> > skype - leigh_blackall
> >> > http://learnonline.wordpress.com
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > cc-nz mailing list
> >> > cc-nz AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >> > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-nz
> >> > Creative Commons Aotearoa New Zealand
> >> > http://www.creativecommons.org.nz/
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> cc-nz mailing list
> >> cc-nz AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-nz
> >> Creative Commons Aotearoa New Zealand
> >> http://www.creativecommons.org.nz/
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > --
> > Leigh Blackall
> > +64(0)21736539
> > skype - leigh_blackall
> > SL - Leroy Goalpost
> > http://learnonline.wordpress.com
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> http://strypey.orcon.net.nz/
> "History's a lie that they teach you in school" - Living Color
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>



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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:56:50 +1300
From: Sam Searle <sam.searle AT mcs.vuw.ac.nz>
Subject: Re: [Cc-nz] Video conferencing for CC-NZ
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Thanks to Paul for pointing out the BeSTGRID project and the work they 
are doing within the research community (universities and CRIs 
specifically) promoting open tools like Access Grid and EVO for use over

the KAREN network.

The website for the emerging community around KAREN and 
videoconferencing is http://avcc.karen.net.nz.

There is an opportunity to link up various 'nodes' around NZ for events 
using the universities as a base so that we could make the most of the 
high bandwidth that KAREN provides. It's worth noting though that tools 
like Access Grid and EVO really require KAREN, so they wouldn't be ideal

for people wanting to come in from work/home via standard broadband. 
Nevertheless, for getting groups of people together face-to-face at a 
local level and then linking to the other centres, the tools work really

well, so in terms of getting more involvement outside of Wellington this

would be one approach. Also there is no technical burden on participants

in terms of having to download/install/learn to use software - they just

need to turn up!

A list of the available 'nodes' is at 
http://avcc.karen.net.nz/wiki/Node_Locations - you'll see there is 
decent coverage across the main centres.

As KAREN is peered with AARNet in Australia, there is also a chance to 
involve colleagues from Australia in any events/discussions. (And 
elsewhere overseas too - but the problem with timezones makes it easier 
with Oz.)

Cheers
Sam

Sam Searle
E-Research Development Coordinator
Room 242, Cotton Building
Victoria University of Wellington
PO Box 600, Wellington 6140, New Zealand
Tel +64 4 463 6613 Fax +64-4-463 5045
E-mail sam.searle AT vuw.ac.nz
Calendar http://www.mcs.vuw.ac.nz/~sam/calendar.html

Ian Thomson wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I am conscious that most of the CC work to date has been Wellington
centric.
> We do need to be more inclusive and I think KAREN VCs would be a great

> way to do that.
> 
> We face a big challenge to raise awareness of the use and benefits of
NZ 
> CC and using these tools would certainly help.
> 
> Ian
> 
> On 03/11/2007, *Danyl Strype* <strypey AT riseup.net 
> <mailto:strypey AT riseup.net>> wrote:
> 
>     Kia ora koutou
> 
>     I would be very keen to experiment with open source, open standard
>     video conferencing systems. Would be useful for other free culture
>     projects I am involved in too, eg Indymedia.
> 
>     However, we also have an offer from Sam Searle to use the KAREN
>     high-bandwidth network to have a CC webconference. Is anyone keen
on
>     doing this? What would be on the agenda?
> 
>     RnB
>     Strypes
> 
>     Quoting Leigh Blackall <leighblackall AT gmail.com
>     <mailto:leighblackall AT gmail.com>>:
> 
>      > I tried Gizmo about a year ago and while it worked well one to
>     one.. I could
>      > never get the conference feature to work reliably. Haven't
tried
>     the others,
>      > thanks for the pointer.
>      >
>      > On 10/31/07, adam <adam AT xs4all.nl <mailto:adam AT xs4all.nl>>
wrote:
>      >>
>      >> > Hi Sam. I'm inspired to grow burns myself now :) CC
Sideburns :)
>      >> >
>      >> > I've been looking for a reliable FOSS webconference
>     alternative. I had
>      >> > hopes
>      >> > for DimDim but it seems to have stalled. I expect Google
will
>     announce
>      >> web
>      >> > conferencing soon (hopefully will be via open standard). We
(Otago
>      >> > Polytechnic) use Elluminate for webconferencing.. we could
>     possibly use
>      >> > that
>      >> > sometimes.. and there's SecondLife - to follow CC.orgs lead
>     for a bit
>      >> > there...
>      >>
>      >> gizmo (http://gizmoproject.com/ <http://gizmoproject.com/>) ?
>     openwengo(http://openwengo.com/)?
>      >> ..linphone or ekiga and asterisk if you are real keen...
>      >>
>      >>
>      >> adam
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>
>      >> >
>      >> > On 10/30/07, Sam Stephens <sam AT postmoderncore.com
>     <mailto:sam AT postmoderncore.com>> wrote:
>      >> >>
>      >> >> Great idea, except Skype is a proprietry/closed platform.
I'm
>     sure
>      >> >> there's a free/open alternative we could use instead.
>      >> >>
>      >> >> Nice to meet you briefly Leigh - I was the guy with the
>     sideburns who
>      >> >> said hi at the end shortly before you left.
>      >> >>
>      >> >> On 30/10/2007 8:41 a.m., Leigh Blackall wrote:
>      >> >> > At the launch, a colleague in NL was having trouble
picking
>     up the
>      >> >> > videostream. He was getting the video but not the audio.
I was
>      >> sending
>      >> >> > the audio via skype through my laptop, which was a great
>     experience
>      >> >> for
>      >> >> > us as we were txting me links as the people were talking.
>     May I
>      >> >> propose
>      >> >> > Skypecast.com <http://Skypecast.com>
<http://Skypecast.com>
>     next time we have an event?
>      >> Links
>      >> >> > relating to that skype chat were saved at
>      >> >> > http://del.icio.us/leighblackall/ccnz
>      >> >>
>      >> >> _______________________________________________
>      >> >> cc-nz mailing list
>      >> >> cc-nz AT lists.ibiblio.org <mailto:cc-nz AT lists.ibiblio.org>
>      >> >> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-nz
>      >> >> Creative Commons Aotearoa New Zealand
>      >> >> http://www.creativecommons.org.nz/
>      >> >>
>      >> >
>      >> >
>      >> >
>      >> > --
>      >> > --
>      >> > Leigh Blackall
>      >> > +64(0)21736539
>      >> > skype - leigh_blackall
>      >> > http://learnonline.wordpress.com
>     <http://learnonline.wordpress.com>
>      >> > _______________________________________________
>      >> > cc-nz mailing list
>      >> > cc-nz AT lists.ibiblio.org <mailto:cc-nz AT lists.ibiblio.org>
>      >> > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-nz
>      >> > Creative Commons Aotearoa New Zealand
>      >> > http://www.creativecommons.org.nz/
>      >>
>      >>
>      >> _______________________________________________
>      >> cc-nz mailing list
>      >> cc-nz AT lists.ibiblio.org <mailto:cc-nz AT lists.ibiblio.org>
>      >> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-nz
>      >> Creative Commons Aotearoa New Zealand
>      >> http://www.creativecommons.org.nz/
>      >>
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > --
>      > --
>      > Leigh Blackall
>      > +64(0)21736539
>      > skype - leigh_blackall
>      > SL - Leroy Goalpost
>      > http://learnonline.wordpress.com
<http://learnonline.wordpress.com>
>      >
> 
> 
> 
>     --
> 
>     http://strypey.orcon.net.nz/
>     "History's a lie that they teach you in school" - Living Color
> 
> 
> 
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