Creative Commons Aotearoa New Zealand discussion

["Brian Opie" <Brian.Opie AT vuw.ac.nz>]

Hi Paul

Thanks for your response. I'll find out more on the second issue.

brian

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> Reply To:     Creative Commons Aotearoa (NZ)
> Sent:         Sunday, April 15, 2007 11:19 AM
> To:   Creative Commons Aotearoa (NZ)
> Cc:   kenneth.strongman AT canterbury.ac.nz
> Subject:      Re: [Cc-nz] CC NZ update
> 
> Hi
> 
> 
> Brian Opie wrote:
> > Kia ora list members
> > 
> > This update has four sections, the fourth of which asks for a
> > response:
> > 
> > 1. Progress: There is real progress, but it is taking more time than
> > anticipated. We now have a Legal Team: Paul Sumpter, Andrew Matangi
> > and Susy Frankel. Paul and Andrew are working on the drafting of the
> > generic licences, and Susy has agreed to lead the process of
> > discussion and inquiry into the need for an indigenous CC licence.
> > The latter process will start at the Launch. The date for the Launch
> > is yet to  be determined, and depends on the completion of the legal
> > work.
> > 
> > There are three aspects to this work, which have led to unavoidable
> > delays:
> > 
> > The first is a decision by the team to adopt the UK-England version
> > as the model, because of the much greater affinity between English
> > and NZ IP law, than between Australia and NZ. This has meant opening
> > a discussion with the UK - England legal team, who have been very
> > supportive.
> > 
> > The second is the matter of annotations. CCi needs not only the
> > generic licences in a form consistent with NZ law, but it needs a
> > clear statement of the ways in which the licences (which still
> > reflect Amemrcian practice and terminology) relate to the provisions
> > of NZ law. This was a potentially larger job than the redrafting
> > itself. The current plan is to adapt the UK-England document when it
> > is completed.
> > 
> > The third is an accident of timing. CCi has promulgated version3 of
> > the generic licences, and member countries are currently revising
> > their licences in relation to the changes in v3. Our team decided
> > that it would not be a good use of (volunteered) time to complete the
> > drafting of the present licences only then to have to redraft to
> > bring them up to date. It has been agreed with UK -England that we
> > will be able to make use of their revisions, which are planned for
> > circulation in draft form in the next fortnight.
> > 
> > 2. RE: [Cc-nz] public domain dedications The process we are involved
> > in works as follows: We produce draft versions of the licences, which
> > are approved by CCi. When they are approved, they are ported to the
> > CCi site where they can be accessed through CC-Aotearoa NZ on the CCi
> > site. The licences do not sit on the CC-Aotearoa NZ website, but will
> > be able to be accessed through a link from this site as well. In
> > other words, CCi maintains control over the licences.
> > 
> > Is this a sufficient clarification?
> 
> 
> Not for me unfortunately, but that may be my fault :)
> 
> I am referring to the CC Public Domain Dedication licence
> (http://creativecommons.org/license/publicdomain-2?lang=en).  If I
> understand it correctly, with that licence, CC maintain a database of
> some sort as "evidence" that the work is in the public domain.  In that
> respect, it looks like this licence is a bit different from the other
> ones because CC not only host the licence itself, but also a record of
> the works under that licence.  I'm not sure whether a NZ version would
> require a NZ database for works in the "NZ public domain", if such a
> thing exists.  Maybe I need a clarification of the term "public domain"
> as well(?)
> 
> 
> > 3. CC-Aotearoa NZ website. The first stage of the website design is
> > almost complete.
> > 
> > 4. Community Partnership Fund application We were pleased that the
> > Expression of Interest was accepted and we were invited to complete a> 
> > comprehensive application for the building of an interactive site.
> > 
> > It would be very useful to have some indications from list members of
> > what you think is the likely user take up of the licences. If you
> > have an individual plan (as say Paul Murrell has indicated) a brief
> > account of that would be excellent. If you think that there are
> > specific groups of people for whom the licences will make an
> > important contribution to their work, it would be good to know about
> > that. Emails with your full name (and any organisational conenction
> > if relevant) would be quite adequate.
> 
> 
> It seems to me that the CC licences are a nice fit for academic work (as
> long as the parent institution does not claim to hold the copyright) so
> I would expect some uptake amongst academics.  It is also really easy
> for academics to try these licences out because we get paid a salary
> anyway.  Sorry, I have no feel for the uptake amongst musicians,
> artists, etc (basically, anyone who would need to be brave to try out a
> CC licence).
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> > I would appreciate receiving this information by Monday 16 April.
> > Thanks in advance.
> > 
> > 
> > Brian Opie
> > 
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