Development of Creative Commons licenses

["Charles Iliya Krempeaux" <supercanadian AT gmail.com>]

Hello,

One advantage you get by doing this at the license level, is that the
"terms" of the license can be understood by machines.

(Having to use a "BY-SA" and then "waive" the "BY" part does NOT have this.)


See ya

On 4/26/07, Greg London <greglondon.1 AT gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4/25/07, Terry Hancock <hancock AT anansispaceworks.com> wrote:
> > Greg London wrote:
> > > On 4/25/07, matt draghi <mattdraghi AT hotmail.com > wrote:
> > >> Does anyone know if there is a license for share alike, not requiring
> > >> attribution?
> > >
> > > You can use ShareAlike. And then simply not provide any attribution
> > > information.
> > > see paragraph 4.c of this:
> > > http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/legalcode
> >
> > Ick, no! People do this all the time, not usually with this intent. It
> > just creates the impression that compliance is impossible.
>
>
>
> For the record, I do not quite share Terry Hancock's vehemence on this
> issue, however, he's not wrong...
>
> I just wish the license contained the text that says how to provide
> the information while specifcially waiving attribution as a requirement.
>
> is "Attribution is waived for John Smith." enough?
>
> Is it clear that this waiver should remain with the license as it passes
> from one downstream user to the next? Is the "attribution is waived for John 
> Smith"
> a waiver you have to attach to every copy of the work that gets passed around?
>
> It is very unintuitive that you have to go out of your way doing extra
> work to tell people they don't have to go out of their way to attribute you.
>
> Alice waives attribution.
> Bob creates a derivative but wants attribution.
>
> Charlie wants to create a derivative and sees that Alice and Bob both
> contributed to the current version. Unless the waiver specifically says
> "Alice waives attribution", he won't know he doesn't have to waive it.
> But that means that rather than waive attribution, you instead have to
> make sure the waiver goes everywhere the work goes.
>
> It's just a bit weird.



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