Development of Creative Commons licenses

["matt draghi" <mattdraghi AT hotmail.com>]

Thanks for the info.  Regarding my not wanting to require the stating of the 
license, my reasoning was that since we are to assume that any work we find 
could very well have all the rights reserved, I wouldn't really be 
restricting anyone by not requiring the information of the license. If they 
did not know the license of the artwork, they should assume that the rights 
are all reserved and should believe that with regard to the law they should 
not be copying it in the first place, let alone restricting the copies or 
modifications of their copy.  So wouldn't it be up to the copier to either 
try to find out the license somehow or assume that all rights are reserved 
if they can't or don't want to find out the license - in the case where 
there is not a license stated along with the artwork? (All the above is 
referring to having only the share alike restriction with no other 
restrictions present)

Thanks, Matt

> From: "Greg London" <greglondon.1 AT gmail.com>
> Reply-To: Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts 
> <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> To: "Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts" 
> <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] just share alike
> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:01:52 -0400
>
> On 4/25/07, matt draghi <mattdraghi AT hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know if there is a license for share alike, not requiring
> > attribution?
>
>
> You can use ShareAlike. And then simply not provide any attribution
> information.
> see paragraph 4.c of this:
> http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/legalcode
>
> I'm unclear how on exactly how you would provide your information
> without making it a requirement. i.e. provide it but specify it is 
> optional.
>
>
>
>
> > I  have some artwork I want to license as such, and don't want people to
> > be
> > forced to say I made it if they copy or modify a copy.
>
>
> If you don't provide info, they don't have to attribute it.
> How you provide your info, but waive the attribution requirement, I'm not
> sure.
> Just add your own disclaimer on your website, maybe.
>
>
> > I am not even sure I want to force them to say what kind of license it
> > has.
>
>
> well, they would have to, or no one else would know its share alike
> and know they can't add more restrictions to the work.
>
>
>
> > I do however want to restrict people from restricting the copying or
> > modifying of their copies or modified copies.
>
>
> yep. that would be sharealike.
>
>
>
> > I have been trying to find such a license and could not find one at
> > creative
> > commons. The closest one I found was a GPL kind, that was primarily
> > written
> > for software, but I think also could appy to anything considered a "work".
> > That one still required stating the license though. Is there any problem
> > with taking an existing license, removing the title and changing some of
> > the
> > words to make it more like what I want? Incase any of this sounds
> > uninformed
> > it is because I have just begun researching this.
>
>
> You can modify a license, you just have to give it a different name.
> You can't make displaying the license optional though, since downstream
> users wouldn't know that the work is ShareAlike and can't have other
> restrictions added.


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