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  • From: "matt draghi" <mattdraghi AT hotmail.com>
  • To: cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] just share alike
  • Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:55:31 -0400


Thanks for the info. Regarding my not wanting to require the stating of the license, my reasoning was that since we are to assume that any work we find could very well have all the rights reserved, I wouldn't really be restricting anyone by not requiring the information of the license. If they did not know the license of the artwork, they should assume that the rights are all reserved and should believe that with regard to the law they should not be copying it in the first place, let alone restricting the copies or modifications of their copy. So wouldn't it be up to the copier to either try to find out the license somehow or assume that all rights are reserved if they can't or don't want to find out the license - in the case where there is not a license stated along with the artwork? (All the above is referring to having only the share alike restriction with no other restrictions present)

Thanks, Matt

From: "Greg London" <greglondon.1 AT gmail.com>
Reply-To: Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
To: "Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts" <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] just share alike
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:01:52 -0400

On 4/25/07, matt draghi <mattdraghi AT hotmail.com> wrote:

Does anyone know if there is a license for share alike, not requiring
attribution?


You can use ShareAlike. And then simply not provide any attribution
information.
see paragraph 4.c of this:
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/legalcode

I'm unclear how on exactly how you would provide your information
without making it a requirement. i.e. provide it but specify it is optional.




I have some artwork I want to license as such, and don't want people to
be
forced to say I made it if they copy or modify a copy.


If you don't provide info, they don't have to attribute it.
How you provide your info, but waive the attribution requirement, I'm not
sure.
Just add your own disclaimer on your website, maybe.


I am not even sure I want to force them to say what kind of license it
has.


well, they would have to, or no one else would know its share alike
and know they can't add more restrictions to the work.



I do however want to restrict people from restricting the copying or
modifying of their copies or modified copies.


yep. that would be sharealike.



I have been trying to find such a license and could not find one at
creative
commons. The closest one I found was a GPL kind, that was primarily
written
for software, but I think also could appy to anything considered a "work".
That one still required stating the license though. Is there any problem
with taking an existing license, removing the title and changing some of
the
words to make it more like what I want? Incase any of this sounds
uninformed
it is because I have just begun researching this.


You can modify a license, you just have to give it a different name.
You can't make displaying the license optional though, since downstream
users wouldn't know that the work is ShareAlike and can't have other
restrictions added.


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