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- From: Mike Linksvayer <ml AT creativecommons.org>
- To: peter.brink AT brinkdata.se, Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] multiple licenses of same image
- Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 15:34:09 -0800
On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 00:23 +0100, Peter Brink wrote:
> Mike Linksvayer wrote:
> >> On Mon, 2007-01-15 at 14:03 +0100, Peter Brink wrote:
> >>> A derivative work must be the result of a _creative act_ originating
> >>> from a human being. If a machine down- or upsamples a work there is no
> >>> creative act involved, it's a just a mechanical transformation. A
> >>> "thumbnail" is therefore a copy and not a derivative work.
> >
> >> There is no such thing as "upsampling" so this logic cannot apply to
> >> versions of a work at higher resolution than offered.
>
> If you call it upsampling, downsampling or sidesampling or whatever
> doesn't matter. A "work" must be the result of a creative act - the same
> goes for derivative works. A mechanical transformation is in itself not
> a creative act, the result of such a transformation is a copy and not a
> derivative work. If I scan a picture and make two versions available,
> one in low resolution and one in high resolution, those two images are
> _copies_ of the _same work_.
I think you missed my point. It is impossible to recreate a high
quality/bitrate/resolution work from a low quality/bitrate/resolution
work, mechanically or otherwise. To do so would be more than creative,
it would be godlike.
So how could offering a low quality version of a work under a license
imply that a high quality version is also offered given there is no
transformation, mechanical or otherwise, that can go from the version
offered to the (higher quality) version not offered?
Just a defender of entropy (as if it needs defense!), not a lawyer.
Mike
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Re: [cc-licenses] multiple licenses of same image
, (continued)
- Re: [cc-licenses] multiple licenses of same image, drew Roberts, 01/15/2007
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Re: [cc-licenses] multiple licenses of same image,
Mia Garlick, 01/15/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] multiple licenses of same image, drew Roberts, 01/15/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] multiple licenses of same image, Peter Brink, 01/15/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] multiple licenses of same image, drew Roberts, 01/15/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] multiple licenses of same image, Evan Prodromou, 01/15/2007
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Re: [cc-licenses] multiple licenses of same image,
Rob Myers, 01/16/2007
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Re: [cc-licenses] multiple licenses of same image,
Peter Brink, 01/16/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] multiple licenses of same image, Dana Powers, 01/16/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] multiple licenses of same image, Mike Linksvayer, 01/16/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] multiple licenses of same image, drew Roberts, 01/16/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] multiple licenses of same image, Terry Hancock, 01/17/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] multiple licenses of same image, Peter Brink, 01/26/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] multiple licenses of same image, drew Roberts, 01/26/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] multiple licenses of same image, Peter Brink, 01/26/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] multiple licenses of same image, drew Roberts, 01/26/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] multiple licenses of same image, Peter Brink, 01/26/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] multiple licenses of same image, drew Roberts, 01/26/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] multiple licenses of same image, Peter Brink, 01/27/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] multiple licenses of same image, drew Roberts, 01/27/2007
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Re: [cc-licenses] multiple licenses of same image,
Peter Brink, 01/16/2007
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