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From: drew Roberts <zotz AT 100jamz.com>
To: Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Q
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 16:36:05 -0400

On Saturday 30 September 2006 12:31 pm, Andres Guadamuz wrote:
> That is an interesting question. From the little I have read about
> DADVSI, the new French copyright legislation, it seems like a
> legislative solution can be found by requiring interoperability. Article
> 331-5 of the new law states that "TPMs must not result in the prevention
> of the effective application of interoperability.."
>
> TPM makers are now under the obligation to disclose information to
> allow interoperability between devices, and there is going to be a new
> body that will be in charge of enforcing interoperability. While the
> legislation has been heavily criticised, I think that the French got
> this bit right!

The other thing that they could do is to make all players play an
unencumbered
format. Say wav or ogg. Something that anyone could play with no DRM or
patent issues.

(Well, they could try and shoot at something like that in any case.)
>
> Andres

all the best,

drew
>
> drew Roberts wrote:
> > Greg,
> >
> > I haven't dug into this carefully, but from browsing on the subject and
> > going from memory, that 3 day limit is only for files that get on the
> > player by the wifi method. If you put them on the player some other way,
> > that automatic 3 day limit does not apply.
> >
> > Now, this will all shake out after people figure out exactly how the
> > whole shebang works, but we should at least see that it is possible to
> > make these sort of nasty players even if zune is not one at this time.
> >
> > So the question becomes, do we want to surrender our content to the big
> > players making these players or those forcong the inclusion of such
> > "features" or do we want some protection from such tactics for our works?
> >
> > Personally I think I want some protections. Now, I am open to hearing how
> > the protections I want will cause me more harm than good, but I think I
> > would like them.
>
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[cc-licenses] CC licenses and Zune DRM are a good match?, Jaroslaw Lipszyc, 09/29/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] CC licenses and Zune DRM are a good match?, drew Roberts, 09/29/2006
  - Re: [cc-licenses] CC licenses and Zune DRM are a good match?, Jaroslaw Lipszyc, 09/30/2006
    - Re: [cc-licenses] CC licenses and Zune DRM are a good match?, tomislav medak, 09/30/2006
    - Re: [cc-licenses] CC licenses and Zune DRM are a good match?, Andres Guadamuz, 09/30/2006
      - Re: [cc-licenses] CC licenses and Zune DRM are a good match?, Greg London, 09/30/2006
        
        Re: [cc-licenses] CC licenses and Zune DRM are a good match?, drew Roberts, 09/30/2006
        
        [cc-licenses] Q, Andres Guadamuz, 09/30/2006
        
        Re: [cc-licenses] Q, drew Roberts, 09/30/2006
        
        Re: [cc-licenses] CC licenses and Zune DRM are a good match?, Greg London, 09/30/2006
        
        Re: [cc-licenses] CC licenses and Zune DRM are a good match?, drew Roberts, 09/30/2006