Development of Creative Commons licenses

[tk <thierryk2005 AT gmail.com>]

Well good question Drew.
I am fairly new in the idea of open source for books and at this point I would see a book as a very different product, acquisition and use than a piece of software and since I do not have any support or training to sell, then my business model would be to sell the book. If someone else can do it too at a much lower price or at no profit, then I do not have a business.
I am interested to use CC license so that others could use the content but not if someone else can package sell it at no profit because then buyers would just get it where it is cheaper...
But I would be very interested to hear some business model in publishing using CC and less restrictive license. Is there a place where I find some stories/experience on this ?
tk

On 9/14/06, drew Roberts <zotz AT 100jamz.com > wrote:

On Thursday 14 September 2006 08:33 am, tk wrote:
> thank you realy much bjorn for answering my questions;
> the last answer is actualy a real worry then because it is imposible to
> verify if someone is seling at cost or at profit; i need to think about it
> a litle bit more then

Anyone doing gpl software is already allowing others to sell their work at a
profit.  If you are a big supporter of Free or Open Source Software, I would
think you would want to use a BY-SA or BY license. Why the desire for the NC
option?
> thx again; take care
> tk

all the best,

drew
>
> On 9/14/06, Bjorn Wijers < mailings AT bdisfunctional.net> wrote:
> > Hi Tk,
> >
> > NOTE: I am not CC nor a lawyer
> >
> > > 1. If I decide to use the *Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 2.0
> > > France license
> > > , does it apply only to France or all French speaking countries and
> > > even to any countries (I plan to have the books in different languages
> > > and people could decide to get a book in a specific language that is
> > > not the national language) ? How do we know it will be valid and
> > > enforced ?
> >
> > That's a lot for one question ;)
> >
> > As far as I know the CC licenses are world valid and not limited to
> > French speaking countries nor a specific language. The licenses are
> > valid (proven in two court cases; one in The Netherlands, one in Spain).
> > CC licenses are not being enforced by a specific organisation. You need
> > to do this yourself.
> >
> > > 2. The books will include a fairly important part of illustrations:
> > > Should I use then both the text and image license at the same time for
> > > each book ?
> >
> > No.
> >
> > It would be advisable and more clear for the end-user, but you may use
> > different licenses for different elements of the books provided this has
> > been labeled appropriate and made as clear as possible for the end-users.
> >
> > > 3. About the non commercial aspect: I understand that I can decide to
> > > sell or not our products but someone else cannot resell/sell our
> > > content, correct ?
> >
> > I belief this is correct. The licenses are non-exclusive and the
> > rightsholder may therefor license a work under multiple conditions /
> > licenses.
> >
> > > 4. Do we need an express authorization of every author when it is a
> > > multi authors book  or only the publishing decides and authorizes the
> > > use of the license ?
> >
> > Depends on the arrangements you have with the authors. The rightsholder
> > may decide to use CC, so it depends on who owns the rights...
> >
> > > 5. Sharealike: I udnerstand that under this specific license
> > > **Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike, someone can make derivatives
> > > product BUT not sell them (ie, the modifications or the derivative
> > > product, correct ?
> >
> > I am not completly sure, but I think you are correct.
> >
> > > 6. Can my publishing company sell those derivatives by default or do I
> > > need to negotiate this point with the author(s) of the modifications ?
> >
> > I would say you would need to negotiate this with the derivative
> > author(s).
> >
> > > 7. Finally but not least, can someone just print the on line content or
> > > scan the books and reprint them and give ithem away for free or at not
> > > profit, ie, still sell it but at cost ?
> >
> > Depends on the chosen license and the definition of commercial Vs
> > non-commercial. If you choose the non-commercial option in your license
> > I would argue that this would be possible provided the money asked is
> > just for the printing costs (ie material).
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > grtz
> > BjornW
> >
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