Development of Creative Commons licenses

[drew Roberts <zotz AT 100jamz.com>]

On Saturday 10 December 2005 08:52 am, Peter Brink wrote:
> drew Roberts skrev:
> > On Saturday 10 December 2005 08:04 am, Stefan Tiedje wrote:
> >>rob AT robmyers.org wrote:
> >>>Quoting Stefan Tiedje <Stefan-Tiedje AT addcom.de>:
> >>>
> >>>It may be. Certainly I gnash my teeth each time I hit an image that is
> >>>under the
> >>>FDL or NC-SA.
> >>
> >>which might be exactly what the copyright holder wants you to do, she
> >>might not like the way you want to use her work....
> >
> > Sure, but this goes to a point I tried to make in a post a while back
> > which is that we are not actually promoting a creative commons (well,
> > some of us may be) but rather multiple, incompatible commons(es?) even
> > within the Creative Commons community.
>
> Possibly, but remember that the *users* of open source/open content
> licenses needn't necessarily agree with the objectives of the
> organizations who has drafted the licenses. The users might have other
> motives, might not understand the licenses and/or only partially
> sympathise with the values of e.g. FSF or CC. In this respect the CC
> approach, i.e. with many different licenses, is a better approach than
> FSF's, because it allows more people to fit their needs within the legal
> framework of one of CC licenses, thus enabling more content to be used
> with fewer restrictions than would be possible under current copyright law.

I don't necessarily agree that the CC approach is better than the FSF's. It 
may be and it may not be. I think it definately gets more work under some 
form of CC license quickly than we would have if they only offered BY-SA, but 
it may not get us to a better place in the end.

Also, those other works are still effectively closed to someone like me who 
wants to deal in copyleft type works.

So, for someone like me, what good are the works under other licenses? I can 
only play with BY or BY-SA as far as I understand things.

Those other works will still prime my creativity well/pump system with water 
that is dangerous to use.

Mind you, if I am thinking correctly, the copyleft type licenses will win out 
in the end as they offer the best deal all round for a commons type game. If 
that is the case, these otehr licenses will prove to be an interesting side 
experiment along the way. We shall see.
>
> Opening backdoors in the current CC licenses could from this perspective
> be a serious mistake on the part of CC.

I am not pushing for the back doors.
>
> /Peter Brink

all the best,

drew
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