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[Ben <chpapa AT gmail.com>]

Right, so next step would be wait for CCi's approval. And if that's
the case I can help to get the domain, and also try to get someone /
organization using CC unported license now for interview by the
mailing list or private invitation :-)

Ben

On Jan 3, 2008 3:32 PM, Rebecca MacKinnon <rebecca.mackinnon AT gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Ben, I think your concerns about the media are very well-founded. :)
> We also don't want to create a situation where many media  do their CC-HK
> stories before the launch, and then lose interest in doing another story
> around the launch itself because they already did one earlier... You are
> absolutely right that we should plan our media strategy so that we have the
> capacity to properly handle the queries received as a result of publicity.
>
> We have a little budget here to secure a domain name if that's ok with
> CC-international..
>
> Cheers,
> Rebecca
>
>
>
> On Jan 3, 2008 3:28 PM, Ben < chpapa AT gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I always think it is a good idea to promote CC in Hong Kong at anytime
> > :-) Since we've now entered the public discussion of draft,  I think
> > setting up a site for queries and public information make sense if we
> > want to make those keep track of but don't have the time to explore
> > the wiki get involved.
> >
> > Some community members had mentioned that we should register
> > creativecommons.org.hk ASAP when it is still available, maybe it is a
> > good chance to do that if there are some budget? (That's HKD $200 for
> > a one year contract)
> >
> > Although CCi suggested that the tradition of not having a lot of
> > publicity before launch is changing, I'm a bit worried for a press
> > release, which may result in some misleading press coverage, maybe
> > someone will write a story to say that CC-HK was launched while
> > actually it is not? (Most of the news reporters from local newspaper
> > don't know wikimedia and wikipedia is not identical until I tried very
> > hard to correct them in my experience -_-)
> >
> > Instead of a simple press release, Rebecca's idea of designating
> > individuals or companies who uses Creative Commons for interview would
> > work better as I think it is more possible to have a in-depth talk
> > with the reporter to make sure the report contains correct
> > information.
> >
> > Just my personal observation and worries, I'm in a email thread with
> > top journalism professionals so please correct me or make other
> > suggestions. :-)
> >
> > Ben
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jan 3, 2008 2:10 PM, Rebecca MacKinnon <rebecca.mackinnon AT gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > OK thanks. I guess probably the best thing to do is for the JMSC to
> create a
> > > bilingual information page about CC-HK on our own website which we can
> > > direct local press queries to, and then take it from there with a press
> > > release and so forth once we are ready. Before doing a press release I'd
> > > love to be able to designate people, companies, and projects around HK
> who
> > > are already using the unported CC licenses or who are advocates of CC in
> > > various ways, who would be interested in speaking to journalists about
> why
> > > CC is good for them. Seems like our cc-hk wiki is a good place to
> develop
> > > that initial list?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Rebecca
> > >
> > > On Jan 3, 2008 2:05 PM, Mike Linksvayer < ml AT creativecommons.org> wrote:
> > > > Traditionally there has not been much publicity around the stages of
> > > > porting prior to actual launch, but we're trying to change that.  I
> > > > suspect Michelle Thorne from CCi will be doing a CC blog post about
> the
> > > > beginning of CC HK public discussions, but any other publicity would
> be
> > > > welcome, as far as I'm concerned.
> > > >
> > > > On the licenses I defer to Catharina (and I defer to her on the above,
> > > > if she disagrees!)
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Rebecca MacKinnon wrote:
> > > > > Thanks Catharina! This is very exciting. I look forward to seeing
> the
> > > > > feedback from people on this list.
> > > > >
> > > > > One question: how much general publicity about the public discussion
> is
> > > > > customary for CC projects at this stage? Some questions have arisen
> here
> > > > > at the JMSC about whether we should issue a press release. I had
> been
> > > > > under the impression that this phase of public discussion is largely
> for
> > > > > people who know something about IP law and/or who are already
> familiar
> > > > > with CC, but please correct me if I am wrong about this.
> > > > >
> > > > > Questions have also arisen here about whether and when we should
> > > > > translate these materials into Chinese sooner than later given that
> some
> > > > > parts of our core target community may feel excluded by an
> English-only
> > > > > discussion. I know that in August it was decided we should do the
> > > > > English license first since it's valid in Hong Kong law then do the
> > > > > Chinese language translation later. I also know that Yahong and
> Alice do
> > > > > not have the time to do the translation on their own. Any
> suggestions or
> > > > > thoughts from anybody out there?
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Rebecca
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Jan 3, 2008 5:21 AM, Catharina Maracke <
> catharina AT creativecommons.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > <mailto:catharina AT creativecommons.org >> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >     Dear all!
> > > > >
> > > > >     Welcome to the discussion of the Creative Commons license for
> Hong
> > > > >     Kong! You will find the draft including some comments of the
> > > > >     substantial legal changes here:
> > > > >     _http://creativecommons.org/international/hk/_
> > > > >
> > > > >     I would like to take this opportunity and thank Dr. Yahong Li,
> Alice
> > > > >     Lee (Legal Project Leads) and Rebecca MacKinnon (Public Project
> > > > >     Lead) for their wonderful work and effort on this project.
> > > > >
> > > > >     Please feel free to review, comment, and make suggestions to
> things
> > > > >     that will help the licenses comply with Hong Kong law. The role
> of
> > > > >     the discussion is to start the public debate and to make the
> least
> > > > >     amount of changes necessary to bring the license into accord
> with
> > > > >     Hong Kong law. Also, please feel free to ask general questions
> about
> > > > >     the Creative Commons licenses in the cc-mailing list:
> > > > >     _http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-licenses_
> > > > >
> > > > >     Part of the fun of this discussion will be, I hope, that we get
> to
> > > > >     compare the quirks and eccentricities of our respective nations'
> > > > >     copyright laws.
> > > > >
> > > > >     We expect the archived discussions to serve as a history of this
> > > > >     experience. That way, your input will continue be useful to
> anyone
> > > > >     from any country even after the discussion for Hong Kong is
> > > completed.
> > > > >
> > > > >     I am very much looking forward to a fruitful and open
> discussion!
> > > > >
> > > > >     Thank you very much.
> > > > >
> > > > >     All the best,
> > > > >
> > > > >     Catharina
> > > > >
> > > > >     ..
> > > > >
> > >
> ............................................................................
> > > > >     Dr. Catharina Maracke
> > > > >     Director, Creative Commons International
> > > > >     Gipsstrasse 12
> > > > >     10119 Berlin
> > > > >     Phone: +49-30-28 09 39 09
> > > > >     Fax: +49-30-28 09 39 10
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
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> > > > > Assistant Professor, Journalism & Media Studies Ctr.
> > > > > University of Hong Kong   ( http://jmsc.hku.hk)
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> Rebecca MacKinnon
> Assistant Professor, Journalism & Media Studies Ctr.
> University of Hong Kong   (http://jmsc.hku.hk)
> E-mail: rmack AT hku.hk | Tel: +852-2219-4005
> Blog: http://RConversation.blogs.com
> Co-founder: http://GlobalVoicesOnline.org
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