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[Ben <chpapa AT gmail.com>]

I have an idea, dunno if it is going to work or not -- Currently we do
have a wiki site here: cchk.wetpaint.com . Besides meeting minutes, we
have two pages with a lot of potential: "Ideas" and "Projects". People
can write any idea of promoting CC in HK or other related issues to
the "Ideas" page, and people can introduce any local project using
CC-License in "Projects" page as well. The problem is just ... we
don't have a lot of activities on the Wiki....

So why don't we have some in-formal social gathering WITH some kind of
lightening talk, people can explain their idea written in the Wiki
Page face-to-face, and see if anyone is interested to work on it
together; People can also introduce their projects using CC-License in
the gathering

I think that would be great so different people can know each other by
social gathering, and people with same thought can join together or
even work on promoting CC idea like the practical workshop suggested.

Any thought about this?

Ben

On 9/24/07, Haggen So <haggen_so AT yahoo.com> wrote:
> I would like to add a third point to this (3) we don't know other members
> in the 'core' group well enough to perform as a team.  Also, it seems to
> me that the 'core' members come from different backgrounds, thus we
> probably have different understandings and expectations of CC and the
> group.  Hong Kong people usually are pragmatic and apolitical, but CC has
> a political element to it and somewhere down the road this element might
> become important.  We need to take some time to form and norm.  We should
> be inclusive and agree to disagree, but we surely need to know our
> differences first ;) Recently, there are a number of Blogosphere meetings
> and I know that some members within the 'core' are good friends and
> probably meeting weekly.  But I would still suggest some informal events
> would be good to build friendships and to discover our strengths as well
> as our weaknesses.
>
> Comments are welcome, including whether there should be the label 'core'.
>
> Haggen
>
> On Sat, 22 Sep 2007, Charles Mok (gmail) wrote:
>
> > I can offer to co-organize this, Chan Yau.  But, I think we really need to
> > have some better progress and a firmer timetable before we should do more 
> > to
> > attract a wider audience, or else we may risk (1) not having enough things
> > solid to share, or (2) attracting more people to complicate matters even
> > more.  We must _focus_ on the legal drafting issues first at this stage
> > although I know a lot of the rest of us are eager to move.
> >
> >
> >
> > Charles
> >
> > --------
> >
> > Charles Mok ²ö¤D¥ú   <http://charlesmok.blogspot.com/>
> > charlesmok.blogspot.com
> >
> >  _____
> >
> > From: cc-hk-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > [mailto:cc-hk-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Chong Chan-yau
> > Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 6:25 AM
> > To: 'Rebecca MacKinnon'; jerryhua AT hkusua.hku.hk
> > Cc: cc-hk AT lists.ibiblio.org; 'Doreen Weisenhaus'; 'Peter Yu'; 'ying chan'
> > Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] CC-HK progress report
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Rebecca and all,
> >
> > Thank you for your update.
> >
> > Much progress seems to be happening.
> >
> > I would like to propose a workshop or seminar where the use of CC can be
> > promoted to a wider audience than the people signing up to this list.
> >
> > Rebecca indicates that she will be more available in the fall.
> >
> > I offer to take the initiative to do the organizing.
> >
> > Any one who is interested as a speaker, etc.
> >
> > This seminar is intended for the laymen, internet users, students etc.
> >
> > It should contain demonstration, experience sharing, etc. Some background
> > introd, and overlap may be useful.
> >
> > Will let you the progress. Welcome expression of interests.
> >
> > Chan Yau
> >
> >
> >
> >  _____
> >
> > From: cc-hk-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > [mailto:cc-hk-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Rebecca MacKinnon
> > Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 12:03 AM
> > To: jerryhua AT hkusua.hku.hk
> > Cc: cc-hk AT lists.ibiblio.org; Doreen Weisenhaus; Peter Yu; ying chan
> > Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] CC-HK progress report
> >
> > Thanks Jerry, great to meet you. There are several people on this list 
> > with
> > IP expertise and familiarity with CC, so please feel free to ask for help!
> >
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Rebecca
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sep 21, 2007, at 11:51 PM, jerryhua AT hkusua.hku.hk wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> >
> >
> > I am Jerry Hua, the graduate student recently recruited in the CC-HK
> > project. I am fist-year PhD under the supervision of Ms Yahong Li, doing
> > research in IP. As a fresh research student, I have not developed 
> > expertise
> > in IP yet, but I do hope I could make efforts to promote the progress of
> > this project and learn from you all.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Jerry Hua
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Message from rebecca.mackinnon AT gmail.com ---------
> >
> > Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:17:41 +0800
> >
> > From: Rebecca MacKinnon <rebecca.mackinnon AT gmail.com>
> >
> > Reply-To: Rebecca MacKinnon <rebecca.mackinnon AT gmail.com>
> >
> > Subject: [Cc-hk] CC-HK progress report
> >
> > To: cc-hk AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >
> > Cc: Doreen Weisenhaus <doreen AT hku.hk>, Peter Yu <peter_yu AT msn.com>, ying
> > chan <yychan AT hku.hk>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello everybody!
> >
> >
> >
> > Sorry for the long silence. Many people were away in August, then things
> >
> > have been very hectic at HKU with the start of the new semester.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have several developments to report:
> >
> >
> >
> > 1. LEGAL WORK: Our legal leads at the HKU Law Faculty, Professors Yahong 
> > Li
> >
> > and Alice Lee, have recruited two graduate students to work on 
> > localization
> >
> > of the CC license into HK law. I've just added them to the list so 
> > hopefully
> >
> > they will introduce themselves.
> >
> >
> >
> > If all goes well, our legal team hopes that drafts of the licenses will be
> >
> > available for your comment by the end of the year. Then after an 
> > appropriate
> >
> > comment period (the length of which depends on the community), we hope 
> > that
> >
> > the licenses can be finalized and CC-HK can be launched by the middle of
> >
> > 2008.
> >
> >
> >
> > 2. CC CONTENT DIRECTORY PROJECT: Two other new additions to this mailing
> >
> > list are Prof. Thomas Lee of the HKU Computer Science department and Gary
> >
> > Tsui, a graduate student in the CS department. They are interested in
> >
> > exploring the possibility of creating some kind of directory of Hong Kong 
> > CC
> >
> > content and also possibly Chinese-language CC content more generally. Of
> >
> > course, we first need to localize the license in order for such a project 
> > to
> >
> > get fully underway, but it's worth starting to think about. So we welcome
> >
> > ideas and interest.
> >
> >
> >
> > 3. HK GOVERNMENT CIO: The government CIO's office has expressed an 
> > interest
> >
> > via Thomas in learning more about Creative Commons. Thomas and I will
> >
> > probably go and talk to them some time in early October just to explain 
> > more
> >
> > about how CC works and what it is. Then, I hope that after the license 
> > gets
> >
> > localized for HK law, our community can encourage them to use it.
> >
> >
> >
> > 4. NEXT MEETING? Some people have asked when we will have another meeting
> >
> > or get-together. Others have said they think that the next time we meet, 
> > we
> >
> > need to have very specific goals that we want to accomplish in order to 
> > make
> >
> > it worthwhile. I welcome your thoughts about whether people think it would
> >
> > be useful to hold another meeting sometime in October, and if so what the
> >
> > objectives of the meeting would be, or whether people prefer to wait until
> >
> > we have a draft of the licenses for comment.
> >
> >
> >
> > 5. BEN CHENG: Ben Cheng, who attended our July meeting, has been hired
> >
> > part-time by my Journalism & Media Studies Ctr here at HKU to help us out
> >
> > with a number of things, including CC-HK community building, organization,
> >
> > and relations. When we get further along in the license-porting process 
> > and
> >
> > start to think about a launch date, etc., he will be a key person to help
> >
> > coordinate activities and projects.
> >
> >
> >
> > Any further questions, ideas, thoughts, opinions, etc. are greatly 
> > welcome.
> >
> >
> >
> > If any other people who recently joined the list would like to introduce
> >
> > themselves, that would also be great.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Rebecca
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Rebecca MacKinnon
> >
> > Assistant Professor, Journalism & Media Studies Ctr.
> >
> > University of Hong Kong (http://jmsc.hku.hk)
> >
> > E-mail: rmack AT hku.hk | Tel: +852-2219-4005
> >
> > Blog: http://RConversation.blogs.com
> >
> > Co-founder: http://GlobalVoicesOnline.org
> >
> > "The world is talking. Are you listening?"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- End message from rebecca.mackinnon AT gmail.com -----
> >
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > Rebecca MacKinnon
> >
> > Assistant Professor, Journalism & Media Studies Ctr.
> >
> > University of Hong Kong (http://jmsc.hku.hk)
> >
> > E-mail: rmack AT hku.hk | Tel: +852-2219-4005
> >
> > Blog: RConversation.com
> >
> > Co-founder: GlobalVoicesOnline.org
> >
> > "The world is talking. Are you listening?"
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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