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  • From: Sarah Pearson <sarah AT creativecommons.org>
  • To: John Weitzmann <johnweitzmann AT creativecommons.org>
  • Cc: legal <legal AT creativecommons.org>, "cc-europe AT lists.ibiblio.org" <cc-europe AT lists.ibiblio.org>, "regional AT creativecommons.org" <regional AT creativecommons.org>
  • Subject: Re: [CC-Europe] 4.0 Deeds strings: A glitch that was fixed
  • Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 12:16:00 -0600

Thanks for your stirring closing arguments, John. :) It isn't a perfect sentence right now, but I think it is probably fine as-is. Since it says "show earlier license ports" right below the sentence, I think people will know what "them" is referring to.

Sarah

On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 5:16 AM, John Weitzmann <johnweitzmann AT creativecommons.org> wrote:
good point, but wouldn't that still clash with the "If you are searching"? "If [there ist a port for the license you chose] you may still use it" would make sense linguistically but not much else, because of course you are allowed to use a port that is provided. The "Should you be" solution isn't much better here, if this is actually displayed after the choice is made, because it would need to be extended like "[Should you be] searching for a port of the license for a particular jurisdiction, however, you may still use it [and can find it in the drop-down list above]." or something like that.

So, the defense rests and pleads for changing to "these ports" :)


On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Teresa Nobre <teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com> wrote:
In some strings it specifically says "ports" and/or "licenses"; here it uses the singular - that's why I thought this part of the text would appear when you had already chosen a particular license and you could still consider a ported one.


2013/11/14 John Weitzmann <johnweitzmann AT creativecommons.org>
I think this matter is sort of in between:

The language is maybe a bit too dense here, but "them" in this case can/is meant to be short for "these ports". "it" doesn't make too much sense either because that sounds like there is only one port altogether + to say "if you are looking for A, you may still use it" sounds strange, the problem obviously being the if-then mechanics.

The message (as Maarten, me and the HQ folks instantly grasped from the initial suggestion to correct) is: "Should you be looking for a port, be informed: You may still use them". But that is an even bigger deviation from the initial wording.

Ergo, between Maarten and Teresa I suggest to go for "these ports".

@Legal et al: Any comments?

Best
John


On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Maarten Zeinstra <mz AT kl.nl> wrote:
Yes I was thinking that as well, after I sent my original mail.. :)


2013/11/14 Teresa Nobre <teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>
Shouldn't it be "... you may still should use it"?


2013/11/14 John Weitzmann <johnweitzmann AT creativecommons.org>
Hi all,

just a quick information regarding the translations of the newly added strings in Transifex for the 4.0 Deeds:

If you already had translated the string that now reads ...

"The most recent license version is 4.0, which can be used internationally. If you are searching for a port of the license for a particular jurisdiction, however, you may still use them."

... you might need to look at it again, because our investigative translators of CC Netherlands found a glitch in there that is fixed now on Transifex.

all the best
John

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