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[Indelible Bonobo <indelible.bonobo AT gmail.com>]

After unsuccessfully fiddling with BasLin and Puppy, I've decided to
give Debian a try. I managed to install it on another computer, but
transplanting the HD back to the P75 caused either Grub or Lilo to
miss the OS (I tried booting with both).

I then managed to regain keyboard control of the Pentium 75 and
decided to try installing Debian from Baslinux using
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds03.html.en

The first error I got was no pkginfo available, so I installed perl and issued

/usr/sbin/debootstrap --arch i386 squeeze /mnt/debinst
http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian

(in the guide there's a \ between squeeze and /mnt/debinst but I
assumed that's there to suggest full line)

Here's the output of that command:

I: Retrieving InRelease
I: Failed to retrieve InRelease
I: Retrieving Release
W: Cannot check Release signature; keyring file not available
/usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-keyring.gpg
I: Retrieving Packages
I: Validating Packages
E: Cannot check sha1sum

Issuing the next command in the guide,

# LANG=C chroot /mnt/debinst /bin/bash

returns "no /bin/bash" found. I checked and the file does exist and it
is an executable (it's not even a simlink to busybox). How do I fix
this and are the W or E above in need of fixing?

On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 12:00 PM,  <baslinux-request AT lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
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> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:10:57 -0400
> From: Indelible Bonobo <indelible.bonobo AT gmail.com>
> Subject: [BL] compiling TOR
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> Thank you, Sindi.
>
> I figured out how grep was installed and fixed it about 20 minutes
> after posting :) (deleted the existing executable and recreated the
> link to busybox in /bin with ln -s )
>
> I tried getting more info on Pulp, but it is mostly in German. I guess
> I'd have to find out through trial & error how it works, and that
> wouldn't be so easy b/c this computer has the kb circuitry fried so I
> have to pull out the HD and install on another computer. Also, I'm
> thinking that the Tor provided in Pulp is not update-able via repos,
> which would through me into the compilation dilemma again.
>
> It is important to be able to update Tor especially on an always on
> machine as I plan this to be, b/c exploits, bugs and memory leaks are
> discovered and corrected all the time. The kernel is otherwise quite
> stable, even the old ones.
>
> I will look up the archive about uclibc, but right now I'm thinking
> that a better way would be to cross-compile, since I'm running linux
> in other environments where compilation is not easy (e.g., my NAS). I
> tried searching the archive for this but could not find much.
>
> Another suggestion thrown my way was Linux from Scratch:
> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
>
> Cheers,
> Indelible Bonobo
>
>
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>>    4. Re: compiling TOR (Ian)
>>    5. Re: compiling TOR (sindi keesan)
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>> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:28:40 -0400
>> From: Indelible Bonobo <indelible.bonobo AT gmail.com>
>> Subject: [BL] compiling TOR
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>> I installed BasLin on a Pentium I 75 hoping to be able to compile TOR
>> and run that computer as a non-exit relay. I'm hoping someone can
>> offer some tips as to which packages must I install to be able to
>> compile some modern programs.
>>
>> I installed gcc and the other tools from Slackware 4.0 as described at
>> http://www.consumedconsumer.org/2012/10/linux-tor-relay-on-pentium-75.html
>> and when trying to compile I get a bunch of complaints from
>> ./configure (listed all at
>> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=4803018#post4803018
>> )
>>
>> Perhaps the most significant complaint, in my judgement, is about the
>> existing grep (via Busybox, if I'm not mistaken) being not up to par.
>> I tried upgrading grep with grep.tgz from Slackware 4 and/or 9 but
>> unfortunately that caused pkg to malfunction. Now everytime I try to
>> install something I get an error in pkg (line 21 or so) stating that
>> no grep can be found. In retrospect, I should have perhaps just
>> updated Busybox.
>>
>> I will reinstall everything, but to bring the box to a state that
>> allows compilation of Tor (and maybe other programs), what should I
>> install / upgrade?
>>
>> [Hello everybody, this is my first post on this list. Hope your week
>> was super and your week-end.. even better :)]
>>
>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 19:23:10 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: sindi keesan <keesan AT SDF.ORG>
>> Subject: Re: [BL] compiling TOR
>> To: baslinux AT lists.ibiblio.org
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>> Take a look at pkg script and see where it is looking for grep, and
>> symlink the new grep to that location, or point the pkg script at it.
>> I am using BL2 so cannot check pkg right now.
>>
>> A lot of programs will not compile with the tools from BL.  One option is
>> to try to compile against uclibc. Read about that in the archive.
>>
>> Welcome to our very-little-used mail list.
>>
>> Sindi
>>
>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2012, Indelible Bonobo wrote:
>>
>>> I installed BasLin on a Pentium I 75 hoping to be able to compile TOR
>>> and run that computer as a non-exit relay. I'm hoping someone can
>>> offer some tips as to which packages must I install to be able to
>>> compile some modern programs.
>>>
>>> I installed gcc and the other tools from Slackware 4.0 as described at
>>> http://www.consumedconsumer.org/2012/10/linux-tor-relay-on-pentium-75.html
>>> and when trying to compile I get a bunch of complaints from
>>> ./configure (listed all at
>>> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=4803018#post4803018
>>> )
>>>
>>> Perhaps the most significant complaint, in my judgement, is about the
>>> existing grep (via Busybox, if I'm not mistaken) being not up to par.
>>> I tried upgrading grep with grep.tgz from Slackware 4 and/or 9 but
>>> unfortunately that caused pkg to malfunction. Now everytime I try to
>>> install something I get an error in pkg (line 21 or so) stating that
>>> no grep can be found. In retrospect, I should have perhaps just
>>> updated Busybox.
>>>
>>> I will reinstall everything, but to bring the box to a state that
>>> allows compilation of Tor (and maybe other programs), what should I
>>> install / upgrade?
>>>
>>> [Hello everybody, this is my first post on this list. Hope your week
>>> was super and your week-end.. even better :)]
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>> Sindi Keesan
>>
>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 19:25:31 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: sindi keesan <keesan AT SDF.ORG>
>> Subject: Re: [BL] compiling TOR
>> To: baslinux AT lists.ibiblio.org
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>> Try the pulp version of puppy linux, which has a precompiled TOR.
>> Pulp boots into 10MB memory and if you exit (or don't load) the GUI,
>> somewhat less.  It supports much more modern software.
>>
>> Sindi Keesan
>>
>>
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:21:23 +0100
>> From: "Ian" <info AT freedomnet.org.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [BL] compiling TOR
>> To: sindi keesan <keesan AT SDF.ORG>,
>>         baslinux AT lists.ibiblio.org
>> Message-ID: <5077D303.11889.3E0A40 AT info.freedomnet.org.uk>
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>> Sindi, is there a mailing list, like this one for puppy?
>>
>> Ian.
>> On 11 Oct 2012 at 19:25, sindi keesan wrote:
>>
>>> Try the pulp version of puppy linux, which has a precompiled TOR.
>>> Pulp boots into 10MB memory and if you exit (or don't load) the GUI,
>>> somewhat less.  It supports much more modern software.
>>>
>>> Sindi Keesan
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 10:58:16 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: sindi keesan <keesan AT SDF.ORG>
>> Subject: Re: [BL] compiling TOR
>> To: baslinux AT lists.ibiblio.org
>> Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.64.1210121056210.1706 AT sdf.lonestar.org>
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>>
>> Forum.  http://murga-linux.com/puppy
>> Search on pulp linux.  There is one discussion item with a link to the
>> latest location of the .iso file.  I can explain how to boot the 'frugal'
>> installation with loadlin or lilo.  Later versions require grub to boot.
>>
>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2012, Ian wrote:
>>
>>> Sindi, is there a mailing list, like this one for puppy?
>>>
>>> Ian.
>>> On 11 Oct 2012 at 19:25, sindi keesan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Try the pulp version of puppy linux, which has a precompiled TOR.
>>>> Pulp boots into 10MB memory and if you exit (or don't load) the GUI,
>>>> somewhat less.  It supports much more modern software.
>>
>>
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> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 17:55:30 +0000 (UTC)
> From: sindi keesan <keesan AT SDF.ORG>
> Subject: Re: [BL] compiling TOR
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> On Fri, 12 Oct 2012, Indelible Bonobo wrote:
>
>> Thank you, Sindi.
>>
>> I figured out how grep was installed and fixed it about 20 minutes
>> after posting :) (deleted the existing executable and recreated the
>> link to busybox in /bin with ln -s )
>
> I thought you wanted the newer/fuller grep for something.
>
>> I tried getting more info on Pulp, but it is mostly in German. I guess
>> I'd have to find out through trial & error how it works, and that
>> wouldn't be so easy b/c this computer has the kb circuitry fried so I
>> have to pull out the HD and install on another computer. Also, I'm
>> thinking that the Tor provided in Pulp is not update-able via repos,
>> which would through me into the compilation dilemma again.
>
> The info on pulp at the forum is in English.
> http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy search on pulp
> Packages for Puppy tend to be whatever the users decide to offer.
> Search the forum (or a search engine) for Tor and puppy.  Usually puppy
> packages will work with pulp, unless they require gtk > 2.0.
>
> To install puppy copy the main .sfs file to any ext2 partition, and the
> kernel and initrd to a fat32 partition, and boot with loadlin.  Or use
> lilo.  Email me offlist for details.  Then any changes you make go into a
> second file automatically when you exit.
>
>> It is important to be able to update Tor especially on an always on
>> machine as I plan this to be, b/c exploits, bugs and memory leaks are
>> discovered and corrected all the time. The kernel is otherwise quite
>> stable, even the old ones.
>
> A search on puppy linux tor got me a puppy linux wika listing three
> versions of tor (37 38 39) from 2012, Jun Aug Sep.  Someone is keeping up
> with it.  The package manager will fetch the dependencies for you.
>
>
>> I will look up the archive about uclibc, but right now I'm thinking
>> that a better way would be to cross-compile, since I'm running linux
>> in other environments where compilation is not easy (e.g., my NAS). I
>> tried searching the archive for this but could not find much.
>
> Let us know how it goes.
>
>> Another suggestion thrown my way was Linux from Scratch:
>> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
> Have fun with this.
> Sindi
>
>> Cheers,
>> Indelible Bonobo
>
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