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  • From: Ken Penner <kpenner AT stfx.ca>
  • To: Jason Hare <jaihare AT gmail.com>, B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] (no subject)
  • Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 09:52:15 -0300

Some of the participles I mentioned in 1QS 1:19-22 are complements of the modal יהיו. Others are in a new paragraph (indicated by the vacat).

18 ובעוברם בברית יהיו הכוהנים

19 והלויים מברכים את אל ישועות ואת כול מעשי אמתו וכול

20 העוברים בברית אומרים אחריהם אמן אמן  vacat

21 vacat והכוהנים מספרים את צדקות אל במעשי גבורתום

22 ומשמיעים כול חסדי רחמים על ישראל והלויים מספרים

 

Ken M. Penner, Ph.D.

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From: Jason Hare [mailto:jaihare AT gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 9:09 AM
To: Ken Penner; B-Hebrew
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] (no subject)

 

Ken,

I'm thinking sentence context would help. Verbal forms without context don't help if we're looking at how they are used and hoping to see how you determine that they are modal (whatever that slippery term means).

Thanks for understanding. I'm just curious about the use.

Regards,
Jason Hare
Rishon LeZion, Israel

Sent from my Galaxy Note II

On Sep 26, 2013 8:02 AM, "Ken Penner" <kpenner AT stfx.ca> wrote:

I don't have specific examples from Biblical Hebrew at my fingertips, but my doctoral research was on the Qumran verbal system, so I can provide over a hundred examples of active participles used with modal functions. For example, 1QS 1:19-22 has six examples (the modality here is jussive):
מברכים
אומרים
מספרים
מספרים
משמיעים

Ken

Ken M. Penner, Ph.D.
Associate Professor, Religious Studies
2329 Notre Dame Avenue, 409 Nicholson Tower
St. Francis Xavier University
Antigonish, NS  B2G 2W5
Canada
(902)867-2265
kpenner AT stfx.ca




-----Original Message-----
From: b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Pere Porta
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 8:19 AM
To: Rolf Furuli
Cc: B-Hebrew
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] (no subject)

Give me, please, two or three examples of "modal" participle.

Friendly,

Pere Porta

2013/9/26 Rolf Furuli <rolf.furuli AT sf-nett.no>:
> Dear Pere,
>
> My statistics of the participles in the Tanakh:
>
> Of 5,315 active participles, the references are as follows:
>
> past: 1,730; present 2,633, future 657; present completed*: 212; modal: 74.
>
> Of 1,100 passive participles, the  references are as follows:
>
> past: 364; present 263, future 97; present completed  299; modal: 77.
>
> *present completed can be compared to English perfect.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> Rolf Furuli
> Stavern
> Norway
>
>
> Torsdag 26. September 2013 10:03 CEST skrev Pere Porta <pporta7 AT gmail.com>:
>
>> Yes, Karl.
>> But the Participle referring to present or to past is by far the most usual.
>>
>> Friendly,
>>
>> Pere Porta
>>
>> 2013/9/26 K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>:
>> > Pere:
>> >
>> > The participle is also used for the future, examples include
>> > Genesis 17:19, 19:13, Deuteronomy 3:21, 4:14, 30:18, 2 Kings 22:16,
>> > Isaiah 5:5, Jeremiah 38:22–3, 2 Chronicles 18:24.
>> >
>> > Karl W. Randolph.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Pere Porta <pporta7 AT gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> These two verbs are in Participle.
>> >> Depending on context, Hebrew Participle refers to past or to present.
>> >> That's why some translate them as pasts and some translate them as
>> >> present.
>> >>
>> >> Greetings
>> >>
>> >> Pere Porta
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Pere Porta
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