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  • From: "Nir cohen - Prof. Mat." <nir AT ccet.ufrn.br>
  • To: Ken Penner <kpenner AT stfx.ca>
  • Cc: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] text on the BH verb structure
  • Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 21:03:25 -0200

dear ken,

thanks for your input!

nir cohen


 
On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 09:33:32 -0300, Ken Penner wrote

> Dear Dr. Cohen,
> This is an admirable quest. Perhaps you might be interested in my article on “The History of the Research on the Hebrew Verbal System” in Brill’s Encyclopedia of Hebrew Language and Linguistics, available at http://www.academia.edu/4271352/History_of_the_Research_on_the_Hebrew_Verbal_System
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> You asked for feedback, so I will make a few notes on your first page.
> It would be good to see a footnote for the claim “The history of the field goes back at least to the mishnaic era.” I was surprised to see “אין מוקדם ומאוחר בתורה” in your first paragraph in connection with the above claim about the Mishnah, since (1) the phrase refers to historical chronology, not grammatical tense; and (2) it is from the 10th century at the earliest, much later than the Mishnah.
> It would be good to define some of your technical terms. In the third paragraph, “grammaticalizing” is used in a non-standard way. There are actually two ways “grammaticalize" is used in linguistic literature: (1) the way of expressing a semantic value through grammar e.g. “the wayyiqtol form grammaticalizes tense”; (2) the diachronic process by which a way of expressing a semantic value becomes a grammatical construction. Neither of these meanings permit the _expression_ “The difficulty in grammaticalizing the BH verb form”.  The phrase “synchronic grammaticalizing model” is an oxymoron according to definition (2), so I imagine you are either using meaning (1) or using “grammaticalize" in an unusual way.
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> Such difficulties discourage me from reading further.
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> Até mais,
> Ken
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> Ken M. Penner, Ph.D.
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> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 12:11 AM, Nir cohen - Prof. Mat. <nir AT ccet.ufrn.br> wrote:
> dear colleagues,
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> i have completed a text (or draft) on the BH verb system, which can
> be found in
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> www.researchgate.net/profile/Nir_Cohen/contributions/?ev=prf_act
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