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- From: K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
- To: "Rev. Bryant J. Williams III" <bjwvmw AT com-pair.net>
- Cc: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Passive Qal
- Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 01:09:40 -0700
Bryant:
Two thoughts come to mind:
1) in the Yiqtol conjugation, in an unpointed text, there are no differences between the Qal, Niphal, Piel, Pual, and hophal for regular verbs. So how do you know which binyan was used for this verb?
2) the reading of “be extinguished” is a quirk of the English language. If instead we read it as “their fire will not go out” we have an active reading of the text. No need even to consider a passive.
The reference to D(K synonym I understand has the meaning “to sputter out, die down (of flame)” used most often of its nine appearances in Tanakh for the sputtering out of a lamp’s flame.
Therefore, from the Hebrew, I see no need for a passive reading of the verb.
As for the theology, … well … let’s save that for another post.
Karl W. Randolph.
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Rev. Bryant J. Williams III <bjwvmw AT com-pair.net> wrote:
Dear List,Below is an article by Dr. Claude Mariottini. What are your thoughts?The Dr Glenn Peoples' article referred to is at http://www.rethinkinghell.com/2013/06/what-the-qal-revisiting-the-unquenched-fire/.The Blauser response of Peoples article at http://rethinkinghell.com/2012/10/the-meaning-of-apollumi-in-the-synoptic-gospels/.Although the discussion is one of importance for other reasons, ALL I want is a discussion on the HEBREW grammar and syntax NOT the interpretation or theology of the text!Rev. Bryant J. Williams III
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[b-hebrew] Passive Qal,
Rev. Bryant J. Williams III, 07/01/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Passive Qal,
K Randolph, 07/02/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Passive Qal,
Petr Tomasek, 07/02/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Passive Qal,
Chris Watts, 07/02/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Passive Qal, Ken Penner, 07/02/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Passive Qal, K Randolph, 07/02/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Passive Qal, Isaac Fried, 07/02/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Passive Qal, K Randolph, 07/02/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Passive Qal, Isaac Fried, 07/02/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Passive Qal,
Chris Watts, 07/02/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Passive Qal,
Petr Tomasek, 07/02/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Passive Qal,
K Randolph, 07/02/2013
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