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- From: K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
- To: "Nir cohen - Prof. Mat." <nir AT ccet.ufrn.br>
- Cc: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] H$TXWH
- Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 20:00:13 -0700
Nir:
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Nir cohen - Prof. Mat. <nir AT ccet.ufrn.br> wrote:
dear karl,
you consider WY$TXW and H$TXWH as representing two different roots. i suspect
that this interpretation is incorrect: i consider them the same root, except
that a final H in WY$TXW was dropped by apocope, as is the rule in all the
LH-irregular roots, in the ("short") wayiqtol form: WYR), WYBK etc.
Whoops, I see I was a little too quick in answering, gave wrong examples. I’ve got to stop this remembering something, then looking quickly to get verse numbers.
Look at Genesis 27:29 there is both WY$XW and WY$XWW for plurals, and in Genesis 43:28 there’s WY$TXW. Both cases, the Masoretes gave an assumed Qere for a Kethiv, is there any evidence from the DSS that the Qere is correct? If not, then stick with the Kethiv.
this said, i must admit that i find it difficult to accept XWH as root,
as the essence of the verb is the bowing down, $XH, and not the hand
gesture, XWH. and, so, i suggest that the extra W was added at some
point as the correct hitpael form, H$TXH, sounded too odd, or was
confounded with other words.
$XH is found in Isaiah 51:23 and Proverbs 12:25 in binyanim other than Hithpael,
(a few hours after I started writing this response)
The more I look at this, the more questions I have, and the more I question both what I’ve been taught as well as what conclusions I had reached earlier based on looking at my copy of a concordance and the text.
There is a verb %XH meaning to swim.
There’s another one $XX meaning to bring down.
Is there such a root as $XH? Without points, the consonantal forms of $XY, Y$TXW can be either from $XH or $XX, so is there even a need for a root such as $XH?
Questions, questions, questions — oh for a native speaker to interview …!!
Anyways, is appears that the root $XWH has the meaning “to give obeisance” both in honoring men and in worshipping God.
best
nir cohen
Karl W. Randolph.
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[b-hebrew] H$TXWH,
Nir cohen - Prof. Mat., 06/17/2013
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- [b-hebrew] H$TXWH, Uri Hurwitz, 06/17/2013
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[b-hebrew] H$TXWH,
Nir cohen - Prof. Mat., 06/18/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] H$TXWH, K Randolph, 06/18/2013
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[b-hebrew] H$TXWH,
Nir cohen - Prof. Mat., 06/18/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] H$TXWH,
K Randolph, 06/18/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] H$TXWH,
Petr Tomasek, 06/19/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] H$TXWH, K Randolph, 06/19/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] H$TXWH, Isaac Fried, 06/19/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] H$TXWH,
Petr Tomasek, 06/19/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] H$TXWH, J. Leake, 06/18/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] H$TXWH,
K Randolph, 06/18/2013
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