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- From: K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
- To: "Nir cohen - Prof. Mat." <nir AT ccet.ufrn.br>
- Cc: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] H$TXWH
- Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:13:27 -0700
Nir:
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Nir cohen - Prof. Mat. <nir AT ccet.ufrn.br> wrote:
uri,
1. as i say, at least one of these words is biblical: $LHBT, which, given the
parallel form LHBH, in my mind is a clear indication of a remnant
$F(L form in BH.
These look like a contraction of $ + LHBT for )$R LHBT
2. another possible source is SHIRAT DVORAH (jud 5) where you find (D
$QMTY which can be interpreted as the $-form of the root QM (though
this can be debated, of course). masorah did not point this word
with segol as one might expect, indicating they might have considered it
this way too.
This is a contraction of $ + QMTY for )$R QMTY.
3. i do recognize at least one of the other words i mention in
arabic: $XRWR = TXRYR. i am not sure, though, whether any one of these derives
as a direct borrowing on the other. if, then, $XRWR does not come
from arabic, or aramaic, then its source might be biblical or even
canaanite-pre-biblical. but then i find intriguing the question: how did it
find its way to modern hebrew without leaving a biblical trace. it is about
this issue that i hoped to get some input from the experts on b-hebrew.
Where is this found in Tanakh?
4. feel free to ignore my remarks on non-biblical words. i just wonder why
this bothers you so much, at the same time that much of the discussion in
b-hebrew is dedicated to the way YHWH was written, or spoken, in late greek
translations and in 1st century jewish communities, a clearly post-biblical
topic, not to mention, polemic.
I’m not part of that.
best
nir cohen
Karl W. Randolph.
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[b-hebrew] H$TXWH,
Nir cohen - Prof. Mat., 06/17/2013
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- [b-hebrew] H$TXWH, Uri Hurwitz, 06/17/2013
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[b-hebrew] H$TXWH,
Nir cohen - Prof. Mat., 06/18/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] H$TXWH, K Randolph, 06/18/2013
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[b-hebrew] H$TXWH,
Nir cohen - Prof. Mat., 06/18/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] H$TXWH,
K Randolph, 06/18/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] H$TXWH,
Petr Tomasek, 06/19/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] H$TXWH, K Randolph, 06/19/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] H$TXWH, Isaac Fried, 06/19/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] H$TXWH,
Petr Tomasek, 06/19/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] H$TXWH, J. Leake, 06/18/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] H$TXWH,
K Randolph, 06/18/2013
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