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  • From: Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu>
  • To: Mike Burke <michaelgburk AT yahoo.com>
  • Cc: "b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] ענן and קסם
  • Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 00:27:06 -0400

What we know is that he did some hocus focus, how "exactly" he did it we don't know. 
Maybe מעונן M-ONEN is related to ענה ANAH, 'call', and אנן ANAN, 'complain', as in 
Nu. 11:1, namely, an expert lip-worker, an utterer of secret intonations. M-NAXE$ 
is also possibly some sort of a M-LAXE$, 'whisperer, ventriloquist'. 

Isaac Fried, Boston University
 
On May 13, 2013, at 10:05 PM, Mike Burke wrote:

>>>>Some think that M-ONEN (Deut. 18:10) is a looker at clouds, but this is also doubtful. <<<<

So we really have no idea what the term means?
 
Michael Gerard Burke

From: Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu>
To: Mike Burke <michaelgburk AT yahoo.com>
Cc: "b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] ענן and קסם

Comparing the root QSM to, what I think, are its variants

*GDM, GZM, G$M
XTM, XSM, X$M, XTM
KSM, KTM
QDM, *QTM, QSM

or

גדם*, גזם, גשם 
חטם, חסם, חשם, חתם
קדם, קטם*, קסם

makes me think that QASAM is creating or conjuring something that appears, or is suggested to be, substantial, material or realistic; or using something that has bulk (as in Nu. 22:7, U-QSAM-IYM B-YAD-AM, unless 'in their hands' is metaphoric). 

I doubt that M-NAXE$ is related to NAXA$, 'snake'. Some think that M-ONEN (Deut. 18:10) is a looker at clouds, but this is also doubtful. 

Isaac Fried, Boston University

 On May 12, 2013, at 11:29 PM, Mike Burke wrote:

What exactly do the terms קסם and ענן mean?
 
Michael Gerard Burke
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