Biblical Hebrew Forum

[Zalman Romanoff <flintflintflintflint AT gmail.com>]

Johannes Cornelis de Moor wrote about this extensively in "The Rise of Yahwism: The Roots of Israelite Monotheism". It was discussed on this list in 2004.

Noam Eitan,

Brooklyn, NY

On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 5:32 PM, K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com> wrote:

Jim:

On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 12:02 PM, <jimstinehart AT aol.com> wrote:

Karl:

 

Thank you for your comments, but except for your very brief mention of Uriah, they do not directly address my twin contentions that (i) the first book in the Bible that has as the personal name of an individual character a west Semitic name ending in -YH that honors YHWH is II Samuel,

Wrong. Go back to my response and see all the names that came before David.

 

1.  You wrote:  “First of all, names ending in -YH and -YHW are alternate spellings for the same name. So you have to include MYKYHW Judges 17:1, 4 and CRWYH 1 Samuel 26:6.”

 

Some scholars say that -YHW is the southern way, attributable to old Judah, whereas -YH is the northern way, which was not adopted by the Hebrews until later [King David’s time and thereafter].

Balderdash. Example, look at 2 Kings 1 and see that )LYH and )LYHW both used to refer to the same individual, the same with )XZYH and )XZYHW.

 

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6.  You wrote:  “Go to 1 Chronicles, the first ten chapters are deadly to read—all they are are genealogies. So we find before David )YH 1:40, (ZRYH 2:8, CRWYH 2:16.”

 

Yes, there are dozens of names in Chronicles that end with -YH, many of which [though not all of which] are west Semitic names that honor YHWH.  But Chronicles comes long after II Samuel in the Bible, even though Chronicles in part covers time periods before King David.

Because it records events that occurred before King David, it falsifies your thesis. But I also mentioned CRWYH David’s uncle, mentioned in 1 Samuel and 1 Chronicles. Even by your reckoning, 1 Samuel comes before 2 Samuel.

 

7.  Karl, although you make many interesting comments, most of them [other than your brief mention of Uriah] do not go directly to either of my twin contentions, which are that (i) the first book in the Bible that has as the personal name of an individual character a west Semitic name ending in -YH that honors YHWH is II Samuel, and that (ii) King David should rightly get the credit for being the first person in the Bible to give to one or more of his sons a west Semitic name ending in -YH that honors YHWH.

You didn’t read what I wrote, did you? 

 

Jim Stinehart

Evanston, Illinois

 

Karl W. Randolph.
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