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- From: Pere Porta <pporta7 AT gmail.com>
- To: David Kolinsky <hadeesh AT sbcglobal.net>
- Cc: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Fw: Song of Songs 1:3 TWRQ
- Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 06:03:51 +0100
From the viewpoint of form, there is a verbal form, not a noun.
In my list of about 9,000 patterns, I found none that being the sum of prefix TW- + two root consonants is a noun. And I say this of both prefixes TW- and T + qubbuts.
This said, this pattern TW + two root consonants can be:
1. From verbs p"y, as Karl suggests ------ see Gn 15:15; Am 7:10; Ps 45:15
2. From verbs ayin"waw (or ayin"yod), as lexicons say of twraq in Song 1:3 -------- see 2K 11:15
3. From verbs ayin"ayin (doubled), as David Kolinsky suggests -------- I found no sample in the Tanakh.
Then, the context and the sense must decide which is the precise root TWRQ comes from.
Song 1:3 seems to be a rare construction: shemen twraq shimkha...
But, Karl, this is certainly not a noun. If the pattern [TW + 2 root consonants] exists in Hebrew as a noun pattern... I surely would have found it.
Friendly,
Pere Porta
(Barcelona, Catalonia, Northeastern Spain)=
2012/12/10 David Kolinsky <hadeesh AT sbcglobal.net>
----- Forwarded Message ----
From: David Kolinsky <hadeesh AT sbcglobal.net>
To: K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, December 10, 2012 2:24:08 PM
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Song of Songs 1:3 TWRQ
Karl,
I believe it to be huphal from רקק meaning 'fully poured out."
david kolinsky
Monterey CA
From: K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
To: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Mon, December 10, 2012 1:54:03 PM
Subject: [b-hebrew] Song of Songs 1:3 TWRQ
Dear Members:While analyzing Song of Songs 1:3, it appears that TWRQ is a noun, from the verb YRQ “to drip, ooze”, is it?Dictionaries and concordances list it as a verb from the root RYQ “to empty out”.What do you all think, and am I making a stupid mistake like last time?Karl W. Randolph.
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[b-hebrew] Song of Songs 1:3 TWRQ,
K Randolph, 12/10/2012
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[b-hebrew] Fw: Song of Songs 1:3 TWRQ,
David Kolinsky, 12/10/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Fw: Song of Songs 1:3 TWRQ,
Pere Porta, 12/11/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Fw: Song of Songs 1:3 TWRQ,
K Randolph, 12/11/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] Fw: Song of Songs 1:3 TWRQ, Pere Porta, 12/11/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Fw: Song of Songs 1:3 TWRQ,
K Randolph, 12/11/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Fw: Song of Songs 1:3 TWRQ,
Isaac Fried, 12/11/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Fw: Song of Songs 1:3 TWRQ,
David Kolinsky, 12/11/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] Fw: Song of Songs 1:3 TWRQ, Isaac Fried, 12/12/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Fw: Song of Songs 1:3 TWRQ,
David Kolinsky, 12/11/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Fw: Song of Songs 1:3 TWRQ,
Pere Porta, 12/11/2012
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[b-hebrew] Fw: Song of Songs 1:3 TWRQ,
David Kolinsky, 12/10/2012
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