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  • From: Pere Porta <pporta7 AT gmail.com>
  • To: David Kolinsky <hadeesh AT sbcglobal.net>
  • Cc: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Fw: Song of Songs 1:3 TWRQ
  • Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 06:03:51 +0100

From the viewpoint of form, there is a verbal form, not a noun.
In my list of about 9,000 patterns, I found none that being the sum of prefix TW- + two root consonants is a noun. And I say this of both prefixes TW- and T + qubbuts.
This said, this pattern TW + two root consonants can be:
 
1. From verbs p"y, as Karl suggests  ------  see Gn 15:15; Am 7:10; Ps 45:15
2. From verbs ayin"waw (or ayin"yod), as lexicons say of twraq in Song 1:3 -------- see 2K 11:15
3. From verbs ayin"ayin (doubled), as David Kolinsky suggests -------- I found no sample in the Tanakh.
 
Then, the context and the sense must decide which is the precise root TWRQ comes from.
Song 1:3 seems to be a rare construction: shemen twraq shimkha... 
But, Karl, this is certainly not a noun. If the pattern [TW + 2 root consonants] exists in Hebrew as a noun pattern... I surely would have found it.
 
Friendly,
 
Pere Porta
(Barcelona, Catalonia, Northeastern Spain)=


 
2012/12/10 David Kolinsky <hadeesh AT sbcglobal.net>


----- Forwarded Message ----
From: David Kolinsky <hadeesh AT sbcglobal.net>
To: K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, December 10, 2012 2:24:08 PM
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Song of Songs 1:3 TWRQ

Karl,
I believe it to be huphal from רקק meaning 'fully poured out."

david kolinsky
Monterey CA


From: K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
To: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Mon, December 10, 2012 1:54:03 PM
Subject: [b-hebrew] Song of Songs 1:3 TWRQ

Dear Members:

While analyzing Song of Songs 1:3, it appears that TWRQ is a noun, from the verb YRQ “to drip, ooze”, is it?

Dictionaries and concordances list it as a verb from the root RYQ “to empty out”.

What do you all think, and am I making a stupid mistake like last time?

Karl W. Randolph.

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