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- From: Michael Abernathy <mabernathy AT conwaycorp.net>
- To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] tense
- Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 21:16:59 -0600
I'm probably getting in on this a bit late but I wanted to check a college grammar before commenting. We generally think of the present tense in English as describing things happening in the present time, but the Harbrage College Handbook describes several other uses:
Habitual action: "Maureen uses common sense."
Universal or timeless truth: "Blind innocence sees no evil."
Historical present: "In 1939 Hitler attacks Poland."
Literary present: "Conrad writes about what he sees in the human heart."
Present form used with an adverb to denote the future: "Winter begins next week."
Progressive form denoting past, present and probably future: "I am learning from my mistakes."
Karl commented on the "normal grammaticalization of tense in English." I'm beginning to think it isn't as normal as we have been taught.
A simple present can be used to denote present action but with many verbs that would be the exception.
For example, "I see what you mean by that remark," denotes present action.
But I can't imagine anyone thinking, "I shop at Macy's," means the speaker is presently shopping.
In fact, it would be often considered poor grammar to use the simple present to refer to present action.
If I heard someone say, "I eat supper," and he wasn't a caveman I would understand that he was describing his usual actions.
The same would be true if he said, "I jog," "I play golf," "I work at Berkley," etc.
I suspect that we are oversimplifying how the ancients use Hebrew when we focus on aspect or tense.
Sincerely,
Michael Abernathy
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Re: [b-hebrew] Alleged "prophetic tense"
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- Re: [b-hebrew] Alleged "prophetic tense", Jerry Shepherd, 12/06/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Alleged "prophetic tense",
Isaac Fried, 12/06/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] Alleged "prophetic tense", Isaac Fried, 12/06/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Alleged "prophetic tense",
George Athas, 12/02/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] Alleged "prophetic tense", James Spinti, 12/03/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] Alleged "prophetic tense", Rolf, 12/06/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] Alleged "prophetic tense", Rolf, 12/06/2012
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[b-hebrew] Alleged "prophetic tense",
Dr. Frank Matheus, 12/06/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Alleged "prophetic tense",
K Randolph, 12/06/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] Alleged "prophetic tense", Isaac Fried, 12/06/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] tense,
Michael Abernathy, 12/08/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] tense, Dave Washburn, 12/08/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] tense,
Isaac Fried, 12/08/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] tense,
Dave Washburn, 12/09/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] tense, Isaac Fried, 12/09/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] tense,
Dave Washburn, 12/09/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] tense, K Randolph, 12/09/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Alleged "prophetic tense",
K Randolph, 12/06/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Alleged "prophetic tense",
Rolf, 12/07/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] Alleged "prophetic tense", Isaac Fried, 12/07/2012
- [b-hebrew] Alleged "prophetic tense", Nir cohen - Prof. Mat., 12/07/2012
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