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- From: James Spinti <jspinti AT eisenbrauns.com>
- To: George Athas <George.Athas AT moore.edu.au>
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Alleged "prophetic tense"
- Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 09:40:39 -0600
Barry,
In addition to John Cook's book, you might want to check out Joosten's new
book on the Hebrew verb:
The Verbal System of Biblical Hebrew: A New Synthesis Elaborated on the Basis
of Classical Prose
by Jan Joosten
Jerusalem Biblical Studies - JBS 10
Simor, Ltd., 2012
The Hebrew verbal system is the subject of a large amount of disagreement
right now, so finding a consensus will be difficult…but I would say that
most/all would agree with you that there is no "prophetic perfect" encoding.
The context is what determines the interpretation.
HTH,
James
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On Dec 2, 2012, at 2:03 AM, George Athas wrote:
> Barry,
>
> I'm with you. I don't think there is such a thing as a prophetic perfect.
> However, I think this because I do not believe that the Qatal is encoded
> for perfective aspect. I would instead argue for it encoding a 'definite'
> (as opposed to indefinite) aspect. Its functional usage usually refers to
> the past, but this is not intrinsic to the verb form itself. Rather, it has
> to do with its syntax and context. The Qatal breaks momentum in a
> narrative, and this is usually caused by a break in the narrative to give
> some significant information (usually something in the past). However, the
> Qatal in and of itself doesn't preclude the possibility of the verb
> referring to the future. However, given its functional usage, this would be
> highly irregular.
>
> You should check out the new book on the Hebrew verb by John Cook published
> by Eisenbrauns (though I disagree with John's perfective–imperfective
> aspect polarity), as well as articles by Alexander Andrason.
>
>
> GEORGE ATHAS
> Dean of Research,
> Moore Theological College (moore.edu.au)
> Sydney, Australia
>
>
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Re: [b-hebrew] Alleged "prophetic tense"
, (continued)
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Re: [b-hebrew] Alleged "prophetic tense",
Rolf, 12/05/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] Alleged "prophetic tense", Barry, 12/05/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] Alleged "prophetic tense", Jerry Shepherd, 12/06/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Alleged "prophetic tense",
K Randolph, 12/05/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] Alleged "prophetic tense", Jerry Shepherd, 12/06/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Alleged "prophetic tense",
Isaac Fried, 12/05/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] Alleged "prophetic tense", Jerry Shepherd, 12/06/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Alleged "prophetic tense",
Isaac Fried, 12/06/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] Alleged "prophetic tense", Isaac Fried, 12/06/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Alleged "prophetic tense",
George Athas, 12/02/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] Alleged "prophetic tense", James Spinti, 12/03/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] Alleged "prophetic tense", Rolf, 12/06/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] Alleged "prophetic tense", Rolf, 12/06/2012
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[b-hebrew] Alleged "prophetic tense",
Dr. Frank Matheus, 12/06/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Alleged "prophetic tense",
K Randolph, 12/06/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] Alleged "prophetic tense", Isaac Fried, 12/06/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] tense,
Michael Abernathy, 12/08/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] tense, Dave Washburn, 12/08/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] tense,
Isaac Fried, 12/08/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] tense,
Dave Washburn, 12/09/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] tense, Isaac Fried, 12/09/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] tense,
Dave Washburn, 12/09/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Alleged "prophetic tense",
K Randolph, 12/06/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Alleged "prophetic tense",
Rolf, 12/05/2012
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