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- From: jimstinehart AT aol.com
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- Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org, david.l.steinberg AT rogers.com
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew
- Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 18:40:37 -0500 (EST)
Isaac Fried:
You wrote: “This is how they were called by the people of the land. Those
who were living close together were typically called QNIZIY, and those who
were living spread out were typically called PRIZIY.”
1. The PRZY did not live “spread out”. The most famous PRZY lived in
Jerusalem. Genesis 12: 6 tells us that the Canaanite ruled Shechem. Genesis
13: 7 then says that the Canaanite and the PRZY were in the land; in
context, that means that the Canaanite Lab’ayu ruled Shechem, and the
Hurrian/PRZY/Piri-izzi-ya IR-Heba ruled Jerusalem. Because those two
antagonistic rulers held sway in the only two cities that existed at that
time in hill country south of the Jezreel Valley, Abram and Lot could go
neither north [by Shechem] nor south [by Jerusalem] in leaving Bethel. So
Genesis 13: 11 explicitly says that Lot went “east” from Bethel, and per
Genesis 13: 9, Abram went the opposite direction as Lot. So Abram went west,
to the Ayalon Valley, a territory controlled by an Amorite princeling, just
as Genesis 14: 13 says. If it’s Year 12 [and it must be the year before Year
13, per the second half of Genesis 14: 4], then all three rulers match
exactly: (i) the Canaanite strongman Lab’ayu in Shechem; (ii) the
Perizzite/Hurrian Ir-Heba in Jerusalem; and (iii) the Amorite princeling
Milk-Ilu in the Ayalon Valley. That’s p-i-n-p-o-i-n-t historical accuracy
in a Year 12 context.
2. As to QNZY, David Steinberg has pointed out that KNS does not match,
having only one phoneme in common. Why not instead go with a
super-spectacular 4-letter match? Take a gander at this Hurrian name from
the Late Bronze Age Hurrian province of Nuzi in eastern Syria: Qa-ni-iz-za.
[Gelb and Purves, “Nuzi Personal Names” (1943), p. 79b.] Hebrew yod/Y is
used to represent the Hurrian vowel A, and the Hebrew rendering of Hurrian
names never doubles a consonant. So QNZY is Qa-Ni-iZ-A. You can’t beat 4
for 4.
The Patriarchal narratives are much older, and more historically accurate,
than university scholars realize. Just look at those ancient Hurrian proper
names!
Jim Stinehart
Evanston, Illinois
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[b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew,
David Steinberg, 11/24/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew,
jimstinehart, 11/24/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew,
Isaac Fried, 11/25/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew, David Steinberg, 11/25/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew,
jimstinehart, 11/25/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew,
Isaac Fried, 11/25/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew,
jimstinehart, 11/25/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew,
Isaac Fried, 11/27/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew, Yigal Levin, 11/27/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew, Isaac Fried, 11/27/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew, jimstinehart, 11/27/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew,
Isaac Fried, 11/27/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew,
jimstinehart, 11/25/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew,
Isaac Fried, 11/25/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew,
Isaac Fried, 11/25/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew,
George Athas, 11/25/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew, jimstinehart, 11/25/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew,
David Steinberg, 11/25/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew,
Bryant J. Williams III, 11/25/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew,
David Steinberg, 11/25/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew, George Athas, 11/26/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew,
David Steinberg, 11/25/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew,
Bryant J. Williams III, 11/25/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew,
jimstinehart, 11/24/2011
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