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- From: jimstinehart AT aol.com
- To: George.Athas AT moore.edu.au, b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew
- Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 14:28:46 -0500 (EST)
George Athas:
You wrote: “Hurrian names are no more a determining factor of biblical texts
than Hebrew, Aramaic, Akkadian, or Egyptian names. You've failed to see the
point that Young was making and actually fall right into the fallacy he was
outlining. You're swimming in circles in Hurrian-infested waters, Jim. Either
quit the Hurrian obsession and stick to the issue of early and late biblical
Hebrew, or else please desist from hijacking an otherwise valuable
discussion.”
As to dating issues, scholars often point out that Hurrian names disappear in
non-biblical sources by the beginning of the 1st millennium BCE:
“Hurrian peoples and names are found in the Late Bronze Age (1550-1200 BC).
Their presence diminished in the following two centuries and disappeared
altogether at the beginning of the first millennium BC.” Richard S. Hess,
“West Semitic Texts and the Book of Joshua”, Bulletin for Biblical Research 7
(1997), pp. 67-68.
So it is important that scholars also recognize that many of the names at
Genesis 15: 19-21 appear to be Hurrian names, thereby representing 2nd
millennium BCE people:
“Palestine also contained other elements, particularly Indo-Aryans and
Hurrians…. No doubt many of the peoples whom the Bible lists as
pre-Israelite inhabitants of the land (Hittites, Hivites, Horites, Jebusites,
Girgashites, Perizzites, etc.), though most of them cannot be identified with
certainty, represent non-Semitic elements in the population. Hurrians
(together with Indo-Aryan elements) were certainly present in Palestine, and
they must have been fairly numerous, since the Egyptians in this period [the
13th century BCE] referred to Palestine as Xuru.” John Bright, A History of
Israel (2000), p. 116.
If Ian Young can focus attention on the allegedly “Persian words dat in
Deuteronomy 33.2, raz (“secret”) in Isaiah 24.16, and peladot (“steel”) in
Nahum 2.4”, then why can’t I counter with 6 Hurrian-based Patriarchal
nicknames at Genesis 15: 19-21? What you call my “Hurrian obsession” is what
I would prefer to characterize as my obsession to show the true antiquity,
and pinpoint historical accuracy as to the historical setting of, the
Patriarchal narratives.
Jim Stinehart
Evanston, Illinois
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Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew
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Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew,
Isaac Fried, 11/25/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew, David Steinberg, 11/25/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew,
jimstinehart, 11/25/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew,
Isaac Fried, 11/25/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew,
jimstinehart, 11/25/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew,
Isaac Fried, 11/27/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew, Yigal Levin, 11/27/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew, Isaac Fried, 11/27/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew, jimstinehart, 11/27/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew,
Isaac Fried, 11/27/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew,
jimstinehart, 11/25/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew,
Isaac Fried, 11/25/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew,
Isaac Fried, 11/25/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew,
George Athas, 11/25/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew, jimstinehart, 11/25/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew,
David Steinberg, 11/25/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew,
Bryant J. Williams III, 11/25/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew,
David Steinberg, 11/25/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew, George Athas, 11/26/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew,
David Steinberg, 11/25/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew, jimstinehart, 11/25/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Early and late biblical Hebrew,
Bryant J. Williams III, 11/25/2011
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