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Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew pronunciation before the Masoretes
- From: K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
- To: "Sesamo m." <sesamox AT hotmail.com>
- Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew pronunciation before the Masoretes
- Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 19:03:32 -0800
Sesamo:
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Sesamo m. <sesamox AT hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I guess that when Hebrew proper names are transliterated into Greek (in the
> LXX version or in the NT), that transliteration reflects to a certain extent
> the pronunciation of Hebrew in that time.
>
Yes, that is the logical understanding.
>
> For instance, Moses' sister is "Mariam" in the LXX, and that name is the
> same in the NT. But in the Masoretic text, she is "Miryam". …"Salomon"
> … "Samuel" .… "Nathanael" …
>
> Considering these former examples, it seems that the first vowel had a
> tendency to be weakened. Another example that seems to agree with this is
> Capernaum. The name Capernaum seems to be a transliteration of "Kefar
> Nahum". This might indicate that the word "Kefar" was pronounced "Kafar" in
> the 1st cent. at least in Galilee.
>
According to the Byzantine tradition of MMS, many of the soft letters found
in the Coptic tradition of NT texts were pronounced with a plosive letter in
Galilee during the first century AD. Examples include Mat-thaion vs.
Maththaion, and Nazaret vs. Nazareth, hence also Kapernaoum instead of
Kafernaoum.
> This makes me wonder if the names beginning with "Yeho-" could have been
> "Yaho-" originally. But in this case, the LXX puts "Yo-" which doesn't seem
> to support my suspicion. Any ideas?
>
Jack Kilmon gave a pretty good answer to this question.
> …
> The capital city of Judah was pronounced "Yerushalem" in the 2nd cent. b.C.
> and 1st cent. A.D. but "Yerushalaim" by the 7th cent. This seems to mean
> that the vowel sound "e" in that position had dipthongized by the 7th cent.
>
> Yes.
>
> What do you think about this? Am I making mistakes in these suppositions?
>
Not entirely.
>
> Thanks,
> Sergio Saavedra (Madrid)
>
> Karl W. Randolph.
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[b-hebrew] Hebrew pronunciation before the Masoretes,
Sesamo m ., 01/15/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew pronunciation before the Masoretes,
Jack Kilmon, 01/15/2011
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[b-hebrew] Accent on Yeshu(a) [was: Hebrew pronunciation before the Masoretes],
Will Parsons, 01/19/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] Accent on Yeshu(a) [was: Hebrew pronunciation before the Masoretes], Jack Kilmon, 01/21/2011
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[b-hebrew] Accent on Yeshu(a) [was: Hebrew pronunciation before the Masoretes],
Will Parsons, 01/19/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew pronunciation before the Masoretes, K Randolph, 01/15/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew pronunciation before the Masoretes, Isaac Fried, 01/16/2011
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew pronunciation before the Masoretes, Will Parsons, 01/19/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew pronunciation before the Masoretes, Will Parsons, 01/19/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew pronunciation before the Masoretes,
R. Lehmann, 01/23/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew pronunciation before the Masoretes, Will Parsons, 01/23/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew pronunciation before the Masoretes,
Jack Kilmon, 01/15/2011
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