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Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew pronunciation before the Masoretes
- From: Will Parsons <wbparsons AT alum.mit.edu>
- To: chavoux AT gmail.com
- Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew pronunciation before the Masoretes
- Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 17:16:53 -0500 (EST)
Shalom Chavoux!
On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 22:24:53 +0200, Chavoux Luyt <chavoux AT gmail.com> wrote:
> Shalom the list!
>
> Thanks for all the answers on my question about the possible
> pronunciation of YHWH. Seeing that it came up again, I have some more
> questions.
>
> <snip>
> Can I come back to my proposition of the pi'el 3rd person imperfectum
> (Y'HaWeH - Yod-shewa-He-patach-Waw-Tsere-He)?
> 1. Can a "Yeho" prefix come from "Yeha"?
It dosn't seem too likely to me.
> 2. Can "Yeha" sound like "Yah" when said rapidly?
Sure.
> 3. Can it account for the different transcriptions into Greek of the
> Name (Some trying to copy the Hebrew pronunciation and some just
> trying to repesent the Hebrew consonants)?
I doubt it. As far as I can see, Greeks generally did not attempt to
tranliterate; instead they tried to render what they heard in Greek letters.
> 4. Does it actually make grammatical sense? (What would be the meaning
> of the Yahweh vocalization proposed by Gesenius?).
> 5. How far back does the differences in the Azkenazi and Sephardic
> pronunciation of hebrew go?
At least back to the middle ages, since an Ashkenazic-like rounding of qamets
seems to be behind the Masoretic use of qamets to represent both of what is in
origin a long [a:] and the short [o] (qamets hatuph).
> Is it possible that different dialectal
> pronunciations were the reason for the variety of Greek transcriptions
> of YHWH? E.g. the Ephraim tribe already had a non-standard
> pronunciation of "shibolet" in the time of the Judges.
Due to the restricted use of the name by the time of the Greek transcriptions,
I would think that dialect would not likely be a factor.
--
Will Parsons
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[b-hebrew] Hebrew pronunciation before the Masoretes,
Sesamo m ., 01/15/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew pronunciation before the Masoretes,
Jack Kilmon, 01/15/2011
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[b-hebrew] Accent on Yeshu(a) [was: Hebrew pronunciation before the Masoretes],
Will Parsons, 01/19/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] Accent on Yeshu(a) [was: Hebrew pronunciation before the Masoretes], Jack Kilmon, 01/21/2011
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[b-hebrew] Accent on Yeshu(a) [was: Hebrew pronunciation before the Masoretes],
Will Parsons, 01/19/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew pronunciation before the Masoretes, K Randolph, 01/15/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew pronunciation before the Masoretes, Isaac Fried, 01/16/2011
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew pronunciation before the Masoretes, Will Parsons, 01/19/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew pronunciation before the Masoretes, Will Parsons, 01/19/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew pronunciation before the Masoretes,
R. Lehmann, 01/23/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew pronunciation before the Masoretes, Will Parsons, 01/23/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew pronunciation before the Masoretes,
Jack Kilmon, 01/15/2011
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