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  • From: Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu>
  • To: "Nir cohen - Prof. Mat." <nir AT ccet.ufrn.br>
  • Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] a tale of three languages: a case study
  • Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 20:45:17 -0500

Methinks that first came the root $L 'tall', (actually, I think that first came the single-consonant roots $ and L), then came the words: $ALAH, 'pull up' (related to TALAH), MI-$OL, 'road, path, DEREK SLULAH', $UAL, 'fox', $UL, 'fringe', $ALAL, ' (piled up) booty', E $EL, 'tree', $ALO$, 'three', *$AL$ELET, 'chain', *$LULIYT, 'puddle', etc.

Isaac Fried, Boston University

On Jan 5, 2011, at 7:36 PM, Nir cohen - Prof. Mat. wrote:

or to put it another way; what was the language of the gov't; of the >>
priests; of the aristocracy; of the peasants on the street; of the middle >>
class; .... of lord& master to the servant in the home?

fred would give a kingdom (which?) to find out in what language(s) samson
talked with delilah and bil'am with his mule. here i give just one case study.

samson's story is really about semitic puns, mostly easy ones (was he teaching
the philistines basic applied semitic lessons? no, because
delilah's name is already semitic!).

but one of the puns i only uncovered reading my arabic dictionary: the story
of the torched foxes. the question is: why did samson choose foxes and not,
say, wolves for his torches?

clearly, because of their tails!!!

it happens that torch in arabic is sha'le and fox in hebrew is shu'al.

then, which etymology came first for the root "$(L": torch or wolf?

a plausible answer is that there is some similarity between the shape of the
torch fire and the fox tail, giving an ancient common semitic word, on which
samson created his jem.

interestingly, the arabic word for fox is th(lb, which maybe is more ancient,
or maybe just closer to aramaic, considering the th --> sh transformation.
conclusion: fox came before fire?

in a very long shot, in indo-european can "fox" and "foco/fogo", "zorro" and
"zoroaster" be related in a similar way ? i wouldnt bet fred's kingdom on it.

nir cohen

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