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- From: AMK Judaica <amkjudaica AT hotmail.com>
- To: Hebrew List <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] be-ne vs. ve-ne
- Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 20:52:40 -0500
FRED:
1) if the previous word ends in a closed syllable, then an initial beged
kefet letter on the following word is plosive with a dagesh kal, i.e., bene
2) if the previous word ends in an open syllable and is accented with a
disjunctive cantillation, then the following word retains the dagesh kal,
i.e., bene
3) if the previous word ends in an open syllable and is accented with a
conjunctive cantillation, then an initial beged kefet letter on the following
word become fricative (lacks dagesh kal), i.e., vene
4) there are exceptions to no. 3 known as dehik and ati marhik, but these are
more complicated
best wishes,
ari kinsberg
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 17:56:41 -0600
> From: tensorpath AT gmail.com
> To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: [b-hebrew] be-ne vs. ve-ne
>
> These geographically nearby excerpts (phrases) of the masoretic text seem to
> alternate pronunciation back and forth of the same word as vocalized in the
> subject line.
>
> Can anyone identify which word requires "ve-ne" vocalization; and which word
> instructs "be-ne" vocalization without reference to the pointed text?
>
> 1. למשפחת בני גלעד
>
> 2. ממשפחת בני יוסף
>
> 3. שבטי בני ישראל
>
> 4. את בני ישראל
>
> 5. מטה בני יוסף
>
> Does the last letter in the word preceding בני dictate its pronunciation;
> depending on that letter's status as consonant or vowel?
>
> Your comments are appreciated.
>
> regards,
>
> fred burlingame
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[b-hebrew] be-ne vs. ve-ne,
fred burlingame, 12/27/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] be-ne vs. ve-ne,
AMK Judaica, 12/27/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] be-ne vs. ve-ne,
fred burlingame, 12/27/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] be-ne vs. ve-ne,
Paul Zellmer, 12/27/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] be-ne vs. ve-ne, K Randolph, 12/28/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] be-ne vs. ve-ne, Yigal Levin, 12/28/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] be-ne vs. ve-ne, fred burlingame, 12/28/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] be-ne vs. ve-ne,
Paul Zellmer, 12/27/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] be-ne vs. ve-ne,
fred burlingame, 12/27/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] be-ne vs. ve-ne,
AMK Judaica, 12/27/2010
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