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  • From: "Donald R. Vance, Ph.D." <donaldrvance AT mac.com>
  • To: Kenneth Litwak <javajedi2 AT yahoo.com>, B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Genitives/construct state in Isa 9:5
  • Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2010 20:42:16 -0600

PL> could be either absolute or construct (morphologically masculine segholate nouns have identical abs and cs forms). YW<X is a participle and is thus a verbal adjective (matching the noun/adjective constructions that follow). Of course, adjectives can function as nouns (as GBWR does elsewhere). Morphologically, >L could be either abs or cs. >BY is definitely cs. Morphologically, CR could be either abs or cs but is clearly cs in this instance. "Supernatural counselor" doesn't seem possible to me for PL> YW<X. The word order is wrong. If you connect them it would yield something like "a counseling miracle" which doesn't make sense, at least to me. HALOT gives "a marvel of a counselor." Go figure. Breaking up the pairs that can be separated yields, "Miracle, Counselor, God, Hero, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace," which makes good sense. JPS's "The Mighty God is planning grace; The Eternal Father, a peaceable ruler" is an abortion.

Donald R. Vance, Ph.D.
Professor of Biblical Languages and Literature
Oral Roberts University
dvance AT oru.edu
donaldrvance AT mac.com


On Dec 7, 2010, at 5:56 PM, Kenneth Litwak wrote:

This last weekend I read a commentary on Isa 9:1-6 in preparation for a sermon. The author stated that Isa 9:5 has four pairs of words, and since three of those pairs have a genitive relationship, the fourth, PL) YW(C, likely does as well (making it "supernatural counselor" rather than "wonderful, counselor). In looking at the other pairs, however, SR SLWM appears to be the only pair in construct. )L GBWR and )BY (D just look like nouns followed by adjectives. Am I missing something here? Thanks.

Ken



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