Biblical Hebrew Forum

[davedonnelly1 AT juno.com]

Sun Jul 25 10:31:32 EDT 2010, Arnaud Fournet asks: 

"Any idea why it is 6823 times, no less no more?"

Dave replies:

>>>

As a matter of fact I do have an idea why YHWH occurs 6823 times in The
Roman Catholic New Jerusalem Bible. 
P.S. Peter Kirk explained this issue in detail back in about 1965.

If you check the Brown-Driver-Briggs lexicon of 1905, you will discover
that the editors claim that [yod-shewa-heh-defective
holem-waw-qamets-heh] [a.k.a. Strongs Hebrew Word #3068] occurs 6518
times in the M.T. where YHWH stands alone]
and that [Aleph-hatef segol-Lamed-defective holem-heh-hireq-yod-final
Mem] [a.k.a Elohim] occurs 305 times, when YHWH either preceeds or
follows Adonai.

They seem to be giving the numbers for the Ben Chayyim Hebrew text which
underlies the Old Testament of the KJB.
If you add 6518 and 305 you get 6823.

However the situation is different in Codex L, which has 6 variants of
YHWH,
but I believe that Peter Kirk has shown the numbers are the same in the
Leningrad Codex,
but that it takes several variants of YHWH [Permanent qere = Adonay] to
add up to 6518,
and it takes several variants of YHWH [Permanent Qere = Elohim] to add up
to "305".

6518 and 305 still adds up to 6823 but there are 6 variants of YHWH in
Codex L,
while there are only 2 variants of YHWH in the Ben Chayyim Hebrew Text.;

>>>

Dave Donnelly  


 



----- Original Message ----- 
From: <davedonnelly1 at juno.com>
To: <b-hebrew at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 2:52 PM
Subject: [b-hebrew] "Yahweh" occurs 6823 times in the Roman Catholic 
NewJerusalem Bible BUT occurs "ZERO" times in the underlying Hebrew.


>
> The title of this topic is:
>
> "Yahweh" occurs 6823 times in the Roman Catholic New Jerusalem Bible
> BUT occurs "ZERO" times in the underlying Hebrew.

[...]

> OR IS IT POSSIBLE THAT SOME EDITION OF A MASORETIC TEXT IS HIDDEN AWAY
> SOMEWHERE AND "YAHWEH" OCCURS  "6823'" TIMES IN THIS HIDDEN AWAY
> MASORETIC TEXT?
>
> Dave Donnelly
>
> P.S. Why does this issue appear to be ignored on B-Hebrew?
>
> It doesn't seem possible that the writings of the Early Greek Fathers
can
> legitimately over rule the Hebrew Scriptures on this particular issue.
***

Any idea why it is 6823 times, no less no more?


When compared to the distance Earth-Moon, the total length of the Chinese

Wall, the Great Pyramid's square root of whatever plus or minus some
skull 
measurements...

Any concrete suggestions?

Maybe you have a preference for logarithmic scale?
There's a little touch of mathematical understanding in logarithmic
scale, 
don't you think? [spoiled by .xls graph menu, actually, a cause of
concern 
to some extent]

Maybe it has some *relevant* [sic] relationship with the height of Notre 
Dame in centimeters according to page xx,yyzz of The Big Conspiracy Made 
Easy (to be published soon).


I noticed the number cannot be divided by 2, 3 or 5, or 23. Strange no?
This 
must mean something, preferably bad I suppose. Help, somebody!


Many thanks.

Arnaud Fournet 

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