Biblical Hebrew Forum

[James Christian <jc.bhebrew AT googlemail.com>]

Hi,

James, didn't you notice that Karl did not produce one citation but merely

> made an allegation? And you don't have any objections?!
>

I'm not sure what you mean by citation or why you feel he needs one. He's
provided an alternative understanding of the inscription with some lexical
justification. The simple fact is that we have no tradition or ancient
translation that demonstrates how this text was understood.

We are fairly sure its a description of how they tunnelled towards each
other from opposite ends.


> You claim to be the 'data man' but applied your criticism to the wrong
> party.
> I know blades of cutting intruments and flames,
> I know lahav and I know lehava, but I do not know of any tool/hammer/etc
> called "esh".
>

I don't believe Karl was claiming there was. I suggest you reread his
interpretation.


> And on the other hand I do know Ex 7.11 where a distant synonym of lahab,
> lahaT/lehaTim, refers to hocus pocus.  But you shouldn't be cheering
> hocus pocus.
>
>
And you feel this is relevant to translation of Shin He because?


> and then this:
> >> Maybe because I’m like the boy seeing the emperor parading down the
> >> street naked, and not knowing better, just blurt out the truth.
> >Great! I don't think Yitzhak will be able to level with this.
>
> This is silly. Frankly, worse than silly. I'll let the moderators call it.
> Yitzhaq is the one presenting the data. And correctly.
>
>
To date Yitzhak has presented observations of patterns from 2 inscriptions
that we have good reason to believe to be Judean Hebrew. You call this
presenting the data? I call this making over generalisations from a
microscopically tiny data set.

Yitzhak refuses to interact with the possibility that Yodhs were lacking for
laziness and continues to raise a completely different phenomenon in defense
of his position (the position he supports) that this wasn't laziness. In
fact, most of the bandwidth in discussion with him has consisted of
straightening out hair splitting on common uses of the English language e.g.
'your position' versus 'the position you support'. If he put as much effort
into presenting data as he does into this kind of hair splitting the
discussion would probably be much further under way by now and I could be
more convinced whether he has a point or not.

BTW, you didn't mention whether you have an interpretation of the
inscription data and whether you support this position that the data
supports late consonantal order of the Torah. Why don't stake a position and
enter the discussion?

James Christian

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