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Re: [b-hebrew] Biblical Hebrew orthographical practices in light of epigraphy
- From: K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
- To: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Biblical Hebrew orthographical practices in light of epigraphy
- Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 16:42:39 -0700
Yitzhak:
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Yitzhak Sapir <yitzhaksapir AT gmail.com>wrote:
> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 6:38 PM, K Randolph wrote:
>
> > I see no clear signs that it is a cognate language.
>
> What would such signs be, for example?
>
Words that are written differently than in Hebrew, and with the exception of
(CD, all words in that document are the same as Hebrew.
There are several signs that the Gezar calendar was written by a child. Not
only the uneven shape, size and position of the letters, but also the two
word sentences: “A month that he gathers in. A month that he sows seed. A
month he sends animals out to graze. A month he rets flax.…” The subject is
probably “my father” mentioned in the lower left corner of the stone. The
months are out of order, and incomplete. All in all, it looks childish.
>
> > Lachish 3 has -th endings for the 2ms suffix, but has
> > the spelling להגד for Biblical להגיד (found in the Bible always with a
> -y-,
>
Once in the Lachish #3, and only by filling in a lacuna. How much damage was
there on that ostracon? How clear are the letters? What about the other
ostraca? In other words, you may have raised more questions than answers by
referring to this.
> You can see a standard transcription and translation of Lachish 3 here:
> http://www.kchanson.com/ANCDOCS/westsem/lachish3.html
> You divide the words differently on the Gezer calendar than practically
> everyone
> else in the world, so I am asking for a transcription (as this may be
> the case in
> Siloam, I ask for Siloam's transcription as well), so I can see the words
> you
> interpret.
>
I have not divided the words differently than the standard on the Siloam
inscription, as the letters, except where damaged, are sharp and clear. One
can read and recognize the letters right off, no need for a transcription.
Where I differ is that I did not come with the presupposition that the
“materes lexionis” were not used in pre-Exile writings, and secondly with
the recognition that “fire” and its synonyms were used in Biblical Hebrew to
refer to the metal heads of tools, such as hammers, knives and pickaxes.
>
> You translate things differently in Siloam ("fire" rather than "man"),
> so I would
> like to see the full translation as you read it. Again, it appears
> you have your
> own independent reading from everyone else.
>
Maybe because I’m like the boy seeing the emperor parading down the street
naked, and not knowing better, just blurt out the truth.
>
> Yitzhak Sapir
>
>
Karl W, Randolph.
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Re: [b-hebrew] Biblical Hebrew orthographical practices in light of epigraphy
, (continued)
- Re: [b-hebrew] Biblical Hebrew orthographical practices in light of epigraphy, James Christian, 05/26/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Biblical Hebrew orthographical practices in light of epigraphy, Yitzhak Sapir, 05/26/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Biblical Hebrew orthographical practices in light of epigraphy, James Christian, 05/26/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Biblical Hebrew orthographical practices in light of epigraphy, Yitzhak Sapir, 05/28/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Biblical Hebrew orthographical practices in light of epigraphy, K Randolph, 05/28/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Biblical Hebrew orthographical practices in light of epigraphy, James Christian, 05/29/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Biblical Hebrew orthographical practices in light of epigraphy, James Christian, 05/26/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Biblical Hebrew orthographical practices in light of epigraphy, James Christian, 05/26/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Biblical Hebrew orthographical practices in light of epigraphy, Yitzhak Sapir, 05/26/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Biblical Hebrew orthographical practices in light of epigraphy, James Christian, 05/26/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Biblical Hebrew orthographical practices in light of epigraphy, K Randolph, 05/26/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Biblical Hebrew orthographical practices in light of epigraphy, James Christian, 05/26/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Biblical Hebrew orthographical practices in light of epigraphy, Yitzhak Sapir, 05/27/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Biblical Hebrew orthographical practices in light of epigraphy, Yitzhak Sapir, 05/29/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Biblical Hebrew orthographical practices in light of epigraphy, James Christian, 05/30/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Biblical Hebrew orthographical practices in light of epigraphy, Yitzhak Sapir, 05/31/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Biblical Hebrew orthographical practices in light of epigraphy, K Randolph, 05/31/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Biblical Hebrew orthographical practices in light of epigraphy, Yitzhak Sapir, 05/31/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Biblical Hebrew orthographical practices in light of epigraphy, James Christian, 05/27/2010
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