Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Bryant J. Williams III" <bjwvmw AT com-pair.net>]

Dear Jim,

First, all we have is the text. It states, thus and thus. That is all we have.
You are making statements based on silence.

Second, Sanskrit has no bearing here because it is an Indo-European language 
NOT
Semitic. Remember, this is Biblical Hebrew.

Rev. Bryant J. Williams III
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <JimStinehart AT aol.com>
To: <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>; <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Sahaduta at Genesis 31: 47


>
> In my prior post, I showed how $H at the beginning of $H-DW-T) makes sense
> as a reference to the Hurrian sky-god Tessup, using Sanskrit words, which
> was the “Hurrian way” of creating important proper names at NHRYM.  [Laban 
> is
> stated at Genesis 24: 10 to live at NHRYM, which is the word, attested only
> in the Amarna Letters, for the Hurrian state of Nahrima/Mitanni in
> northeast Syria.]  Now let’s analyze the rest of the word $H-DW-T), and then
we’ll
> look at the whole phrase, YGR $H-DW-T).
>
> Data is from Sanskrit da, where da-ti in Sanskrit means “to give”.  But
> the Hurrian version of the Sanskrit word “da” was “du”, meaning “to give”.
> [Alternatively, the W might be a mere vowel indicator, not necessarily
> changing the Sanskrit “da” to Hurrian “du”.]  The ending seems to be –tta,
> which means “I” or “me” in Hurrian as a suffix.
>
> The meaning of $H-DW-T) is:  “(The) sky [that is, the all-important Hurrian
> sky-god Tessup] give I (as witness).”  On the foregoing analysis, every
> single letter in the Hebrew text is perfect.
>
> We know that Abdi-Heba and (YN $W [at item #5 on the Thutmose III list]
> have the Late Bronze Age pattern of a Hebrew word followed by a Hurrian 
> word.
> Using that pattern, with YGR being the Hebrew word [not an Aramaic word] for
> “fear”, YGR $H-DW-T) at Genesis 31: 47 now makes perfect historical sense.
>  It means:
>
>  “Fear (of) sky [that is, the all-important Hurrian sky-god Tessup] give I
> (as witness)”.
>
> [The ultra-literal translation is:  “fear sky give I”.]  Although a
> different Hebrew word for “fear” is used, note that Jacob reacts to the
foregoing
> polytheistic name at Genesis 31: 53 by swearing by the “fear” of Isaac,
> that is, the pious fear that all three Patriarchs righteously had for YHWH, 
> as
> the one and only God (in the view of the Hebrews, as opposed to the pagan
> views of polytheistic Laban).
>
> I disagree with the (seemingly unanimous) scholarly view expressed by Dr.
> Reinhard G. Lehmann that, allegedly, “In this text, two (fictitious) 
> persons…
> try
>
>
> to say the same thing in different languages.”  No, Laban and Jacob are
> n-o-t  saying the same thing, nor is Laban speaking Aramaic (a language that
> did not exist yet in the Patriarchal Age).  Laban of NHYRM is swearing by 
> the
> pagan Hurrian sky-god Tessup.  Pious, monotheistic Jacob/“Israel” would
> never do anything remotely like that!
>
> I also disagree with Prof. Lehmann’s statement that “the Aramaic wording
> and the possibilities of rendering are no device for a dating of the text.”
> There is no “Aramaic wording” in the Patriarchal narratives.  But the
> slightly-concealed reference to the Hurrian sky-god Tessup at Genesis 31: 47
> dates the text beautifully.  The  o-n-l-y  time in 5,000 years of human
history
> when both (i) the Hurrian sky-god Tessup was known and prominent, and (ii)
> the Hebrews were historically in existence, was the 14th century BCE.  
> That’s
> also the dating of the only attestations of NHRYM, and of the phrase “field
> of the Arameans”/Paddan-Aram.  Likewise, the only attestation in secular
> history of Chedorlaomer’s kingly title (in the original, defective 
> spelling),
> MLK (LM, as applied to an historical ruler is in the 14th century BCE.
> George Athas has properly stated that whether the names match is a critical
> aspect of whether a theory of the Patriarchal narratives is bona fide.  
> There’
s
> no way that a Hebrew or Jew in the 1st millennium BCE would think to
> reference the long-extinct Hurrian sky-god Tessup (using Sanskrit words, no
less!),
> or the long-extinct Hurrian state of NHRYM.  University scholars have no
> explanation for the presence of NHRYM in this text, and no decent 
> explanation
> for the presence of YGR $H-DW-T) in this text.
>
>
>
>
>
> In a later post, we can confirm most all of the foregoing analysis of
> $H-DW-T) by looking at a Hurrian princeling name from this very time period
that
> is a close variant of the Biblical foreign name [which is  n-o-t  Aramaic]:
> $H-DW-T).
>
> Jim Stinehart
> Evanston, Illinois
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