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  • From: JimStinehart AT aol.com
  • To: jc.bhebrew AT googlemail.com
  • Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org, George.Athas AT moore.edu.au
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] El-Paran
  • Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 11:50:33 EDT

James Christian:

Would you please comment specifically on the word )YL at Genesis 14: 6?
No matter how lovely the oases south of the Dead Sea may be, the only
relevant question here is whether or not one would see )YL in the wilderness
of
Zin (or, per the scholarly view, at the Gulf of Aqaba). The Greek words
don't matter. What counts is the Hebrew word )YL. I have asserted that )YL
is an oak tree or terebinth, not a palm tree or acacia tree or acacia bush,
and that )YL does not grow south of the Dead Sea, but rather )YL was
abundant in the Transjordan in Biblical times. Even if the Negev were a
savannah
in the Patriarchal Age, per Karl, still one would not see )YL south of the
Dead Sea, if )YL means "oak tree". The logical conclusion is that all of
Genesis 14: 6 is being portrayed as occurring in the Transjordan, north of
the Dead Sea, where there is )YL, there are Horites/Hurrians, there is
well-wooded hill country/HRRM %(YR, and the eastern border is an impenetrable

desert/Paran, just beyond the marginal pastureland/MDBR. That is to say,
every aspect of Genesis 14: 6 literally reeks of the Transjordan in the Late
Bronze Age. E-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g fits perfectly. Why are you so opposed
to viewing the troops of the 4 attacking rulers as campaigning in the
Transjordan at Genesis 14: 6? As I see it, that's what the text says, at
least
if )YL means "oak tree", and oak trees were abundant in the Transjordan
north of the Dead Sea in Biblical times, while always being non-existent
south
of the Dead Sea.

Jim Stinehart
Evanston, Illinois




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