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  • From: K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
  • To: b-hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] The scholars agree that Koine Gr OU means long u.
  • Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:03:12 -0800

Garth:

I’m mostly self taught as far as Biblical Hebrew is concerned, and in a
large extent in Greek too. That has certain disadvantages, but certain
advantages as well. One of the advantages is that I get to look at Hebrew
with fresh eyes, not through the glasses put on by long training in the
traditions. The old school doesn’t like people like me, as we often upset
the apple cart. Nor have we learned to worship the gods of political
correctness. For example, who is that schmuck Gesenius that I should listen
to him? Or how about HALOT? I exaggerate here.

One of the effects of the Reformation was a change from relying on experts
and accepting their word without question, to demanding to see the evidence
upon which those statements were based. I am a disciple of the Reformation
in many ways, including this one. So far I have not seen convincing evidence
to back up your claims. And now you tell me to go back to bow down at the
feet of the experts? Uh-uh, that dog don’t hunt. I’m too much a follower of
the Reformation for that.

You have shown how the ancient Greeks spelled out what they thought they
heard when they heard a ‘w’ sound, but you have yet to demonstrate that they
pronounced it as a ‘w’. In fact, I think the evidence is against it. If my
analysis is correct, that means that Clement indicated a three syllabic name
consistent with evidence from Hebrew that the name in fact had at least
three syllables.

Karl W. Randolph.

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Garth Grenache
<garthgrenache AT hotmail.com>wrote:

>
>
> Dear Karl,
>
> K>It was from Hebrew sources before I saw the Greek from Clement that I
> came
> to the conclusion that the name had at least three syllables. What I see
> from the Greek is further evidence to back up that conclusion.
> K>I call that ?scholarly consensus? into question and see no reason to back
> off from that questioning. At least not yet.
>
> That's fine, Karl. I encourage you to pursue the truth of the matter with
> such scholars of Koine Greek. I, and others here, have provided the
> evidence that satisfies ourselves about this issue. Perhaps if you *seek*
> the help of Koine Greek scholars, you will *find* sense in the evidence they
> provide you.
>
> Kind regards,
> Garth Grenache.




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