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Re: [b-hebrew] Definite articles and proper names in B-Hebrew
- From: Petr Tomasek <tomasek AT etf.cuni.cz>
- To: James Christian <jc.bhebrew AT googlemail.com>
- Cc: b-hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Definite articles and proper names in B-Hebrew
- Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:04:36 +0200
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 03:48:51PM +0300, James Christian wrote:
> Hi all,
> recently I suggested that Elohim may be used as a proper name in the
> creation account and not just as a title. I also suggested that THWM in the
> creation account was used as a proper name for the ocean that covered the
> land at that time. My basis for this suggestion was their use with the
> absence of the definite article. Obviously, in English, it is easy to spot a
> proper name because we capitalise it and never use it with the definite
> article (I know, never say never, I'm sure there are some exceptional
> counter-examples). But is this the case in B-Hebrew. Can we determine proper
> name usage by using the absence of the definite article as an indicator?
No. The language is not an ideal system and there exist many exemptions.
I think the best example is 1Sam 1:1 MN HRMTYM CPJM...
> In
> Florentine Italian, for example, it is common to speak of 'La Sara' when all
> participants know which Sara we are talking about. What generalisations can
> we make about proper names and the significance of the definite article in
> B-Hebrew? If titles can be used without definite articles in B-Hebrew under
> what circumstances can they be used? What are the contextual clues that
> Elohim is a title in the creation account if that is the way it is to be
> understood?
>
> James Christian
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[b-hebrew] Definite articles and proper names in B-Hebrew,
James Christian, 09/30/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] Definite articles and proper names in B-Hebrew,
Petr Tomasek, 09/30/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] Definite articles and proper names in B-Hebrew,
James Christian, 09/30/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] Definite articles and proper names in B-Hebrew,
K Randolph, 09/30/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] Definite articles and proper names in B-Hebrew,
dwashbur, 09/30/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] Definite articles and proper names in B-Hebrew, K Randolph, 09/30/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] Definite articles and proper names in B-Hebrew, Mike Gockley, 09/30/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] Definite articles and proper names in B-Hebrew,
dwashbur, 09/30/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] Definite articles and proper names in B-Hebrew,
K Randolph, 09/30/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] Definite articles and proper names in B-Hebrew,
James Christian, 09/30/2009
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- [b-hebrew] Definite articles and proper names in B-Hebrew, Gerry Folbre, 09/30/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] Definite articles and proper names in B-Hebrew,
Petr Tomasek, 09/30/2009
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