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- Subject: [b-hebrew] A jussive in Ps 24:5?
- Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 23:15:29 +0200
I've been trying to figure out the syntax of the verb >yissa'< in Ps 24:5.
All translations and commentaries that I am aware of see this verb as
starting a new clause and translate it is "He will receive ... ."
Andersen-Forbes, however, see it as the predicate of the entire of v. 4,
rending: "One of clean hands ... will receive ... ." It was recently
suggested to me at SBL that it is a jussive.
Does anyone have any views on this? I have posted a more detailed overview
along with further questions that this raises for me on my blog at:
http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2009/08/is-in-ps-245-jussive.html.
Thanks in advance,
Philip Sumpter
http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/
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Phillip,
> I've been trying to figure out the syntax of the verb >yissa'< in Ps 24:5.
> All translations and commentaries that I am aware of see this verb as
> starting a new clause and translate it is "He will receive ... ."
> Andersen-Forbes, however, see it as the predicate of the entire of v. 4,
> rending: "One of clean hands ... will receive ... ." It was recently
> suggested to me at SBL that it is a jussive.
>
> Does anyone have any views on this? I have posted a more detailed overview
> along with further questions that this raises for me on my blog at:
> http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2009/08/is-in-ps-245-jussive.html.
>
It is a Qal imperfect 3ms. The same form occurs in Gen 32:21 (Hebrew; in
some English Bibles it is 32:20). The sentence would be extremely long
and awkward if Anderson-Forbes were correct. The standard handling,
seems much preferable in song and poetry.
Yours,
Harold Holmyard
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